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Bedrock of the Community
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
06/12/2022 6:41 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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definitely not in my wheelhouse. planchet appears to be on the heavy side of porosity. AU50 not sure how a TPG will treat the planchet but probably call it details (ED) |
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Agree that it has light porosity and would be an AU-50 details coin. Some small amounts of dirt still cling to the protected areas but you can see an effort has been made to clean it up. Have no idea on how value is affected so hopefully someone chimes in on that.
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Bedrock of the Community
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EF details, environmental damage.
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Very nice EF40 example of an EDS Horned Bust Connecticut (Miller 4-L)
C4 folks can please correct me if there are any errors in my post.
Obverse is probably closer to VF35, rev is probably EF45, I'm netting it at 40 sharpness
Some light even porosity but try finding Connecticut coppers struck on problem-free planchets.
The "horn" die break that develops from the right shoulder of the bust (across from AUCT) gets progressively larger, eventually connecting to the U in AUCTORI in the VLDS.
EDS examples such as this one are IMO scarcer than the ones with the actual "horn" die break present and a bit tougher to find than an R1 would suggest...
Would love to know the diameter when you get this one, to see if it's on the later issue cut-down planchet (the furthest left point of the bust was tooled off the dies after the planchet size was reduced in order to fit the legends, at least theoretically.)
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Thanks for the attribution and helpful post paralyse. I was looking at some MS graded CT coppers and hardly any of them had any detail in the face of Liberty in the reverse. I was really surprised that this detail showed up on this coin. I didn't really know what her face looked like. I think that made me decide to pick up this coin, not knowing when I would see this image again. Kind of frightening if you ask me.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
06/12/2022 4:16 pm
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The EDS coins are reasonably well struck for CT's (a factor which may have led to the subsequent die breaks that develop, when combined with the quality of the planchets and the metallurgy of the dies -- speculation on my part only) I have seen an Unc example of M.4L across the block once in a listing with Stacks and it did low 4 figures if I remember correctly Kagins had a VF35 (NGC) LDS across the block a couple years ago at ANA that did $420 with the nut, with heavy obverse clash and struck off center on both sides. Your coin is noticeably sharper, and a scarcer EDS, but with the light porosity. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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