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Great coins from 1723!  For 1722 all I can offer is a humble British George I halfpenny:  |
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1721 Spain 2 Reales   |
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Lovely 2 reales, @keith12! France 1721, ecu, Louis XV, Paris (A).   This coin was part of the sixth and last reformation (overstrike) of gold and silver coins carried out by the Treasury since 1690. It is struck on a previous ecu dated 1718. Overstrikes were simpler and cheaper to perform than to melt down old coins for recoinage. Often traces of the host coin remained visible, like quite clearly on this one. The overstrikes were a way to improve the Crown's finances, which were in a terrible state after the many and long wars during the 17th century. At each overstrike, old coins were demonetized and mandatorily brought to the mint, where they were bought at a specified price, expressed in livres. Overstruck coins were valued higher: the same sum in livres but fewer coins were returned, the "surplus" coins going to the Treasury! For this overstrike the ratio was 6:9, so bringing in three ecus (3 x 6 = 18 livres) gave two ecus (2 x 9 = 18 livres) back  , but it was not advisable to complain. |
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Indeed, on the obverse we can see the faint imprint of the word NOMEN at 11:30 - 1:00 from the reverse of the earlier type, and the lower part of the (previous) shield coming out of young Louis' nose!
Reverse, we have a previous face looking intently to the Southeast at the word DOMINI (the chin competing for a position with one of the fleur-de-lis).
Probably this was a random placement of the earlier coin in the die, but maybe the mint worker thought "LORD, let's hope they don't complain."
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06/26/2023 8:23 pm
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Beautiful coins Keith and erafjel! I have a French coin for 1720, but it's a very heavily circulated copper half-sol:  |
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And a well-circulated 1720 1/12 thaler or "dwugrosz" (depending which side of the Oder you were on), struck in Dresden for use in Saxony and Poland.   Edited by tdziemia
06/27/2023 10:09 am
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France 1720, 1 livre d'argent, Louis XV, Paris (A).  This coin of pure silver (3.74 g), instead of the ordinary 917/1000 used for French silver coins, was minted for a brief period during 1720. Unlike other silver coins it had a fixed value of 1 livre. It was intended as a complement to the paper money introduced by the Scotsman John Law. The history of John Law and how he got total control over the French financial system is a fascinating one. I will not tell it here, but it is easy to google. Suffice it to say that it ended with a crash and Law had to flee France. |
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Here is a 1/2 baiocco of the Papal State of Ferrara, Italy, struck during the 19th year of the reign of Pope Clement XI. This was 90% in the calendar year 1719. Interesting that the Italian word for "half" (mezzo) added a second z sometime in the last 300 years. This was not a diecutting mistake since it appears in multiple parts of Italy in the 1700s.   Edited by tdziemia
06/28/2023 08:14 am
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1718 Great Britain halfpenny:  |
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France 1718, ecu, Louis XV, Paris (A).   This is the host coin for the 1721 overstrike I showed a few days ago. In 1718 a new series of ecus with lower weight than previously was introduced (24.5 g compared to 30.6 g), so overstriking of old coins was not an option. Still, their value was set to 6 livres, the same as the old ecus. The value was stepwise increased, as was customary during the financial chaos that had reigned for decades, until they topped at 12 livres in 1720. They were then demonetized and overstriking with a new design began. |
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Do I need to go coin shopping again.  |
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Quote:Do I need to go coin shopping again. Not for 1717 if that's what you were asking! I do have to admit, it's not exactly the best coin quality. Though admittedly the rarity somewhat complements that.   United Kingdom, George I (1714-27) 1/4 penny (farthing), "dump" issue, 1717 KM# 548, Numista 13080IIRC, I paid about $2 for this little coin. Was quite surprised to discover how rare it was. |
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Not for 1717 if that's what you were asking!
Just ready to help if needed.  (if I can) |
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Do I need to go coin shopping again. I was kinda wondering if that's how you got us going last time. Now that we got 1717, I think I have just one gap between now and about 1491 though I may need to do some more photography. Definitely missing pepactonius this time through. Edited by tdziemia
07/02/2023 7:44 pm
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1716 Denmark 2 skilling:  1716 Great Britain crown:   |
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