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How Far Back Can We Go? Seventh Edition! Ended At 1380 Waiting On 1379

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was it literally just to spite me?
No, not at all! I do not want you to ever feel that way! You are a huge part of the success of these topics. Especially doing the research into who has what to offer.

I was just excited to get the Eighth going. While I enjoy watching the run, I do not get to contribute anything before 1806. I have had a lot of additions since the Seventh ran through my window and am looking forward to sharing them.

Know this, if Project Backstep existed, I would fix this.
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I was just excited to get the Eighth going. While I enjoy watching the run, I do not get to contribute anything before 1806. I have had a lot of additions since the Seventh ran through my window and am looking forward to sharing them.
...OK, so just to get this un-confused: is it true that you would have closed the 6th edition early anyway even if my post there about how you shouldn't do that didn't happen?

(obviously assuming that ttkoo's drumroll post did)
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some clarification because on re-read I think there might be a misunderstanding there. I'm not asking about the newly posted coin at all. I'm wondering whether my comment on the 6th edition was the reason you locked the 6th edition thread early instead of keeping it open.
To be clear, it had nothing to do with it other than being a convenient comment to quote. I was going to lock it even if no one said a thing about the milestone.

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By the time that other coin had been posted on Around the World, the 6th edition thread had already been locked - though that coin would have been legal to post there at the time if it hadn't been locked hours too early
Sometimes the "Yesterday" and "today" dating gets the better of me. I did not catch that either. Andy's post made me think I missed it before the closing, when in fact, I did not.

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is the possibility I'm beating myself over.
Please, do not. It is just one year. Maybe I should add an asterisk or explanation reply to it?
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To be clear, it had nothing to do with it other than being a convenient comment to quote. I was going to lock it even if no one said a thing about the milestone.
Thanks! I assumed it was something like that but your wording made that sufficiently unclear.

If so, that means it's basically not my fault at all (I guess it's kind of yours but you knew that already and I don't want you to beat yourself over it this much either - and in any case at locking time you had no idea it would happen).

Now I should probably edit out the emoji spam while I still can...
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OK, so just to get this un-confused: is it true that you would have closed the 6th edition early anyway even if my post there about how you shouldn't do that didn't happen?)
I would have locked it even if ttkoo and Spence did not post, either. Once I saw this reply from ttkoo in the Seventh, I knew what I was going to do in the Eighth.


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Thanks! I assumed it was something like that but your wording made that sufficiently unclear.
Yes, that is on me. I let the excitement get the better of me.


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If so, that means it's basically not my fault at all
I concur. This is all me!
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I guess the upshot of all this is that even though the Sixth set a new record by lasting the longest, the Seventh set a new record by beating its predecessor in record time!
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Some happier discussion...
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Maybe someone can confirm my math, but I'm thinking that the soonest the 8th edition can catch this one is June 19, 2026.
I checked with Google and yes; the 8th edition would start going back from 2022 on 2 September 2024, which at a rate of one year per day would get it to 1367 on 19 June 2026.

Realistically I'd be surprised if the catch-up happens before August 2026, and wouldn't rule out this edition lasting into 2027.
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I guess the upshot of all this is that even though the Sixth set a new record by lasting the longest, the Seventh set a new record by beating its predecessor in record time!
The previous record, if you were wondering, was held by the Fourth, at about a week (June 22-29, 2018).

(In that case, the Third wasn't closed early, it's just that the 1487 wasn't posted until about three days before closure and then the guy with the 1486 apparently didn't realize it was his turn until over a week later.)
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Yikes! So, the craziness is not new!

Thank you for researching it! I told you that you are a big part of these topics' success!
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Erm...does that mean this thread is AH767 as of tomorrow?
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Erm...does that mean this thread is AH767 as of tomorrow?
Yes!
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Wow...

I'm not trying to make waves, but now that I have my head above the swirling waters of the 7th edition, I must ask for some clarity from our esteemed host, jbuck. What defines the end of an edition of HFBCWG?
The following quote is the opening line on page 1 of this edition.

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The Sixth Edition has reached the Fifth Edition, thus ending its reign.
(note reached, not overtaken)

So it would seem to me that the posting of the AH 769 coin would be sufficient to justify the end of the 6th edition.

Additionally, what purpose would be served by waiting another day for a 1367 / AH 768 coin to be played that could have already been played in the preceding weeks?

I am asking for this clarity in case I missed an explanation in a previous edition to which I was not a party.
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I posted this in the around the world thread... and nobody noticed

Well I think you got that noticed now.
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Erm...does that mean this thread is AH767 as of tomorrow?
Think so! Certainly 1366 AD and I think that translates to 767 AH, yes.

Here's the expected upcoming situation until 1308, based on the most recent 6th edition listing (with some updates courtesy of ttkoo, and counting JohnConduitt as an active participant again)...

1366 - ttkoo
1365 - JohnConduitt
1364 - ttkoo
1363 - JohnConduitt, tdziemia
1362 - JohnConduitt, ttkoo
1361 - bd251, JohnConduitt
1360 - JohnConduitt
1359 - JohnConduitt, ttkoo
1358 - JohnConduitt, ttkoo
1357 (AH 758) - none found? (Spence's coin is supposedly unclear in attribution? I no longer recall what the problem was)
1356 (AH 757) - none found
1355 (AH 756) - none found
1354 (AH 755) - none found (but tdziemia said they might have one)
1353 - ttkoo
1352 - ttkoo
1351 - JohnConduitt, ttkoo
1350 (AH 751) - none found
1349 - JohnConduitt
1348 (AH 749) - none found
1347 - tdziemia
1346 - JohnConduitt, Spence
1345 (AH 746) - none found
1344 - tdziemia, ttkoo
1343 - tdziemia, Spence
1342 - ttkoo
1341 (AH 742; AH 741?) - none found
1340 (AH 740) - Spence?
1339 - tdziemia
1338 - EddieDiz, Spence, tdziemia, ttkoo
1337 - tdziemia
1336 (AH 736) - none found
1335 (AH 735) - none found
1334 - january1may, tdziemia
1333 - Spence
1332 (AH 732) - none found
1331 (AH 731) - none found
1330 (AH 730) - EddieDiz?
1329 - Spence, tdziemia
1328 (AH 728) - none found
1327 - Spence; ttkoo
1326 - ttkoo
1325 - bd251, tdziemia, ttkoo
1324 - ttkoo
1323 - ttkoo; january1may?
1322 - ttkoo
1321 - ttkoo
1320 - Spence, ttkoo; JohnConduitt (frozen date)
1319 - Spence, ttkoo
1318 - ttkoo
1317 - ttkoo; zorosenpai?
1316 - ttkoo
1315 - ttkoo
1314 - ttkoo
1313 - ttkoo
1312 - ttkoo
1311 - Spence, ttkoo
1310 - ttkoo
1309 (AH 709) - none found
1308 (AH 708; AH 707?) - ttkoo?


I'm stopping at 1308 because that's yet another "unclear conversion" point and someone (JohnConduitt IIRC?) had a coin from 707 AH that could be either 1308 or 1307 (so it's not clear how I should list it).
After that the gaps seem to be 1307 (?), 1306, 1302, and theoretically 1298, but my data on the 13th century hadn't been put together yet so I'm not sure.

I suspect that JohnConduitt might have obtained some more coins since then; my last evidence on their collection is many years old.
In a year or so we'll have the Walking Back by Dates thread as a more general source; not sure how much it would help the 7th edition (eventually, I guess...) but it sure should help the 8th.
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1308 (AH 708; AH 707?) - ttkoo?

I'm stopping at 1308 because that's yet another "unclear conversion" point and someone (JohnConduitt IIRC?) had a coin from 707 AH that could be either 1308 or 1307 (so it's not clear how I should list it).
After that the gaps seem to be 1307 (?), 1306, 1302, and theoretically 1298, but my data on the 13th century hadn't been put together yet so I'm not sure.


It's a tough spot for AH 707. According to my calendar converter https ://www.date-converter.com/en/hijri-calendar/707/#google_vignette, (remove the spaces AFTER HTTPS) it has 175 days in 1307 and 179 days in 1308. This varies a little depending on the converter used. To me it is on the cusp. It makes up less than 50% of either C.E year.

I have a 1302 now also.

It will be interesting to see if we can get down to the 13th century....who knows.... maybe Dearborn can yet play his 1288 sorry.... 1280
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