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UnkleDo New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 09/07/2022 12:10 pm I have no idea if this is a Token or Coin or how to find out the Value. I have took it to two coin shops and the were not eager to buy just because it does not have a amount attached to it. Is this a valuable coin/Token? I think it's pretty neat and historic for California history especially being in the MS state that it is in. (mind you this Token/Coin is the size of a PEA, literally. Thank you for any and all help Report this Post to the Staff

chafemasterj Pillar of the Community United States 6514 Posts	Posted 09/07/2022 12:35 pm Neat piece. I am of no help to you in determining a value. Someone will be along soon I'm sure that knows much more than I. By the way. . . Welcome to the Forum. You've come to a phenomenal place to share and learn. Explore and Enjoy! Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507 Report this Post to the Staff
jimbucks Pillar of the Community United States 4691 Posts	Posted 09/07/2022 2:27 pm It's not a coin. IMO it's a fantasy piece. Many were made in the 1970s. Some had small amount of gold content, many did not. Report this Post to the Staff
David Graham Pillar of the Community Australia 1610 Posts	Posted 09/07/2022 5:50 pm Considering the ICG slab says it is a charm, I would say it is a charm. Have you entered the number on the back of the slab in the ICG website? Also the wear to the edges suggest it may be gold plated but not solid gold. Edited by David Graham 09/07/2022 5:52 pm Report this Post to the Staff
UnkleDo New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 09/07/2022 5:57 pm I honestly did not know ICG graded fantasy coins, seems kind of pointless. Learning a lot on here. I thought Charm meant like it was a charm of a coin; Charming Coin. Not a literal charm. Lol Excuse me for bothering. Smh Report this Post to the Staff
David Graham Pillar of the Community Australia 1610 Posts	Posted 09/07/2022 6:14 pm We are all learning around here, even long timers! I suspect charm would be 'good luck charm'. Grading companies have different policies on what they will grade so you are right in that some companies would not grade it. It would also explain why the dealers weren't interested. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16805 Posts	Posted 09/07/2022 8:10 pm Technically, it is neither a coin, nor a token. It is a "fantasy replica" - not a coin, but designed to kind-of-look-like a coin. Fantasy coins like this, if one must put them somewhere on the "coin vs token vs medal" grid, are "medals". Classifying it as a "charm" would seem a bit presumptuous to me; no doubt, many of these replicas did end up on charm bracelets, but I'm not sure it was the manufacturer's original intent. Most of these California fantasy gold pieces seem to date from the 1960s and the centennial of the gold rush, sold as souvenirs, and the gold used to make them was actual California gold (or at least, that's what the sellers would claim). Making "gold miniature coins" out of 8K gold for use as charms in jewellery became fashionable in the 1980s, with production mainly from Mexico, but the design for these miniatures was usually copied from larger gold coins, like the US double-eagle or Mexican onza. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
cointagous Pillar of the Community United States 1143 Posts	Posted 09/07/2022 11:21 pm It is a replica of pieces that were initially made during the gold rush by jewelers and assayers during the 1850's. This is likely gold plated and has a nominal value. Early Cal gold was used for commerce while later (1870's) were more for souvenirs. This is much later and was likely struck for the tourist trade. There are many many different charms like this of both the round and octagonal designs and they can sell for a few dollars. Report this Post to the Staff
IndianGoldEagle Bedrock of the Community United States 36415 Posts	Posted 09/13/2022 09:40 am The ICG slab also calls it out as "CA Fractional Style". It's a copy. Report this Post to the Staff
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