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 Posted 02/22/2009  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't want this getting dragged off-topic, because there's a pretty important issue to be addressed. I hope you don't take my words wrong, chris12018, because I know you're genuinely making an effort to learn here.

The PL/DMPL designation is a very common misinterpretation on the part of a newer collector who's never actually seen a true DMPL coin. There is absolutely no mistaking a true DMPL - they will reflect light into your eyes painfully, and you'll be astonished at just how dazzling a business-strike coin can be. A true DMPL coin is indistinguishable from a Proof's reflectivity, and it would need to be a good proof at that.

They are very darn difficult to represent in photographs, because an average camera cannot capture the level of detail that a DMPL coin delivers in its' reflection. Here's a case in point - this coin was only worth a PL designation from NGC:

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The Coke can reflected was a foot from the coin.

The examples presented here by chris12018 are some very nice coins indeed. I could easily imagine some of them receiving a PL designation, but there is no way I could ever pronounce one DMPL based on these shots. The first 1878-S, which is probably the one with the best reflectivity, shows too little definition in the reflection of light right in front of the jaw - a DMPL coin would have sharp edges to what's reflected, rather than the diffuse edges showing in the pic. But, again, I won't come down on either side based on photographs.

You want to see a DMPL coin in action? Here's one we call a "headlight:"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6l7C8rK8hg
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 Posted 02/22/2009  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Very informative thread , so how much does being DMPL add to the value of a coin ? and does that designation apply to all denominations ?


Generally speaking, DMPL designations are not for copper, except Proofs - it's very difficult to achieve such a finish on a copper coin. The PL and DMPL designations pretty much originated with Morgan dollars in the 60's - prior to that, they were just premium examples of a given coin. Now, the designation can and has been applied to many silver issues, and they've become premium coins.

Value differences, like most coinage, vary according to rarity. Some Morgans are easily found with reflective surfaces - well, easily considering the fact that only about 2% of Mint State Morgans are worthy of even PL designation, and only a small percentage of them DMPL - and others are much more difficult. Many Carson City Morgans, generally the most valuable, are also the easiest to find with reflective surfaces. On the other hand, certain San Francisco Morgans, generally considered on average the best-struck examples, are unknown in DMPL. So, additional value can range from, say, 30% above the non-PL value, to huge multiples of it.
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Very tough to tell with a photo.
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