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Grade Help! Silver 20 Piastres 1917 Sultan Hussein Kamel

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I have added some new coins to my Egyptian collection, and this is one of my latest additions that I would like to share with you.

Sultan Hussein Kamel

KM#321 20 PIASTRES
Composition: 28.0000 g., 0.8330 Silver .7499 oz. ASW
Date: AH 1335-1917
Mintage: 840,000

Would appreciate your comments on the grade.
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 Posted 02/27/2009  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin.
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 Posted 02/27/2009  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've never been too good at grading coins like this, but I'd call it gVF, with maybe the edge knocks take it down to plain VF.

I've never noticed before; the "English half" of the coin calls it "20 piastres", but the "Arabic half" calls it "20 qirsh".
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Thanks Sap for the grading


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I've never noticed before; the "English half" of the coin calls it "20 piastres", but the "Arabic half" calls it "20 qirsh".



We "The Egyptians" currently use the word Piastres or Piaster as a translate to Qirsh in arabic.


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The Egyptian pound or gineih[1] (Arabic: الجنيه المصرى‎, el-Gineih el-Mi#7779;r#299;) (sign: £ or ج.م; code: EGP) is the currency of Egypt. It is divided into 100 qirsh (قرش) (pronounced irsh[2], piastres in English), or 1000 malleem (Arabic: مليم‎) (milliemes).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_pound
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Is there anything I can use to remove this black dirt without affecting the coin value?
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 Posted 02/28/2009  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manila galleon trade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
very nice coin.
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 Posted 03/01/2009  05:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks echizento and manilagalleontrade
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Any comments regarding the grade
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Nice coin Amr. I have a couple of coins in this series. Not the 20P though.

As far as grade I would say VF. They are not easy to grade as the design is quite flat anyway. However the edges and leaves are showing definite wear. It looks like there are a couple of quite prominent edge dings too.
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 Posted 03/04/2009  03:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Quick Silver.
The coin looks better than the pic, but at least I have a base line (VF).

Thanks again
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 Posted 03/07/2009  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see the consensus is VF--I thought so too, but I know nothing about this coin series.

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Is there anything I can use to remove this black dirt without affecting the coin value?
It looks like silver tarnish to me, which is normal. Removing that would make the coin look cleaned. Personally, I like the appearance.
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 Posted 03/08/2009  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you DVCollector
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