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Isn't a DYE EVENT or DYE ANOMALY also an error? Isn't the DYE part of the coin processing made to precise specifications just as the STRIKE process is, which therefore makes a DYE error another coin error?
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It should be spelled die.Lets wait for a pro or two to comment.
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Die what exactly john1 (die clash, die chip, double die etc....
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He has a point there but yes it has already been realised.
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die clash, die chip, double die etc....

It is actually called a doubled die.
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a die may begin its work in an ideal condition, but a typical die strikes hundreds of thousands of coins, and along the way stuff happens, like pieces break off the die, that's a die event, and coins subsequently struck with that die will exhibit the difference
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IMHO an "error" coin is a coin that should not exist. Not a coin that was minted from a "die event"
I'm sure others disagree
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I think Keith has a point.
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Yes. The reality is that the die varieties we enjoy collecting, which includes doubled dies, repunched mint marks (RPMs), over mint marks (OMMs), repunched dates (RPDs), overdates, (OVDs), and misplaced dates (MPDs), are the result of mishaps that occur in the process of making the dies that strike the coins (which can result in an error). A working knowledge of the die making process will help us to see how the various die varieties resulted over the years, but these have been documented as they are known. More here: https://www.doubleddie.com/58201.html

The master dies make working hubs. Working hubs then make the working dies that actually strike the coins. This multi-generational process is important to preserve the integrity of the master hubs and dies. As the working dies wear out during coin production, the Mint uses the working hubs to make more working dies. The working dies and hubs get more use and wear out, while the lightly used master hubs and dies stay preserved. As mentioned by Nick10, this also can cause additional issues on the struck coins as the dies wear until they are replaced.


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For better understanding of those terminologies, please consult the site https://www.error.com. It is a good start on what an error , variety it is.

To understand Die Event, just think at your car. If the brake pads go out is considered brake event and not an error of manufacturing. Same with the Dies. An Die has his life also so when aging will create more Die Events.
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