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@KerryKz: When/Where did you purchase the piece?
From the images presented, the piece appears to have some questionable areas.
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It was a gift.. no way I could afford this or would buy it with my non existent knowledge! Def got a problem or two.. don't know enough to even feel comfortable using water on this thing   |
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Do you have access to a coin/jewelry scale? It would be good to get an accurate weight (to at least one decimal place) in grams with the piece outside of the capsule. It would also be good to get an accurate diameter measure.
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About 1.25 Inches. Don't think a big old measuring tape was the right choice. But all I had handy.  |
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It looks to be a gold plated over a copper core. What is the physical size of this coin compared to the gold bullion the mint produces?
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I don't think gold would get that type of spot toning by the date, that's more like a copper spot.
Edit: The details looks good though.
Edited by macmercury
01/01/2023 6:58 pm
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I don't think that this is an authentic gold coin - at lease from the mint. For one thing- when it comes to gold, I doubt very much they would let it be over weight by .099g - that extra weight may be from an additional plating over a copper core. (in the last image by the OP, you can see a chip in the gold color and showing a 'copper' color underneath by the 1 in the date. Also there is a missing mintmark above the date. In addition gold will not tarnish like what is seen on this coin. Here is an image of the mint produced coin:  here are the stats on the mints coin: Denomination: $50 Finish: Proof Composition: 99.99% Gold Gold Fine Weight: 1.0000 troy ounce Diameter: 1.287 inches (32.70 mm) Edge: Reeded Mint and Mint Mark: West Point - W Privy Mark: None Edited by Dearborn
01/01/2023 7:00 pm
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The proof comes with the west point mint mark, the bullion does not.
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Okay any thoughts on my original questions?
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I doubt very much they would let it be over weight by .099g @Dearborn, I think the scale display is in avoirdupois ounces; 1 troy ounce is about 1.097 avoirdupois ounces. |
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And is pricing fairly close to that of gold value? If it's genuine - something I remain undecided about based on the images provided - it often sells for about 15% over its intrinsic gold value. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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XRF may not be able to proof this one genuine if the gold layer is thick enough to deter it, so a density test is probably better.
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