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2008-D LMC Improper Annealing?

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 Posted 01/26/2023  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Numismax Hey Man, I do not understand where you want to go? All Californian like to convince they are right? this happened in the last time here.

You has the choice to go to Long Beach Show and PCGS will grad your coin free. The show it is in the begin of February, and then please comeback and show us we are out of the realty.

You do not has any knowledge of Chemistry, Calorimetry and Metallurgical Science, please do not go there if you do not has the background.

I was very glad to see a really missing plating on coin, almost on that part of the coin. Reason it is because the plating on electroplating start with the middle of the coin and not with the border. Explanation? :The most negative ions of the Zn are concentrate in the middle and the anions are most on the sides. Do you want the formula?

Come back with the PCGS slab.
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 Posted 01/26/2023  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@silviosi, I do not appreciate the derogatory statements toward Californian nor my level of intellect. If I do not understand something, then isn't that the perfect opportunity to dive in and learn? The whole point in me joining this community is to LEARN. The difficult part I'm having is the language barrier we have. No to offend you, but I have to read your statements over and over to make sure I'm understanding you.

I'm still unsure if you think this was caused pre or post minting.

I'm not trying to prove that I am right. I am just a curious soul. It was suggested that applied heat caused this issue post minting. If that is the case. How might one suggest it was done? I tried a few different ways from the aforementioned above.

I can try copper plating a coin to see for myself how it concentrates in the center first. But aren't the metal sheets plated before the blanks are punched? So plating a coin wouldn't be the same. If I do try plating a coin. How would you recommend I suspend the coin in the copper sulfate solution without the hardware effecting the plating? Alligator clips would leave uneven copper plating where it's secured to the coin. Could I set the coin on the bottom of the glass beaker? Would the side on the glass get coated? I will look into this later.

Thank you for the suggestion on the coin show. Maybe I can get the time to make it there.
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01/26/2023 7:38 pm
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Numismax You keep doing your experiments. The blanks are plated after they are punched out. If they were plated before, the edge would not be plated and the zinc would show. They are tumbled in a solution to plate them.
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 Posted 01/26/2023  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
2008-D-LMC-Improper-Annealing? This are some of the ones I found in string rolls.
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 Posted 01/26/2023  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've always thought this centralized lack of plating was caused by an error in the plating process.
As if two zinc blanks stuck together somehow and kept the copper from plating the area between the blanks.
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 Posted 01/26/2023  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ Cu : the color is a normal Zn who come back to his normal stage.
@ PETE: Normal the blanks is suppose to be clean after blanking?!!!? I like your hypotheses.

Me I supposes some could be from the Heats of the Dies. In time I present to the Mint the Document about over heat of the Dies and the danger for the production quality, but as the Mint is do not come back to you.

@Numismax: Far from me to offend you, but to go more far will be complicate. I speak scientific dialect and not the common language, I teaches in DC Mc Hill, in Corpus Christy in Montreal McGill but science. I had residents from over the word and no problems till here sometimes some persons do not accept my way to show what is my opinion and them to analyze what it is..

Is very good to be curious and try to learn and here it is the place for the coins not the forensic of the coins.


PS: The electroplating of the blanks do not use copper sulphate
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Here are some diagnostics also for future reference, check if there is any slightly below weight differences.
https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-c...nghouse.html and https://conecaonline.org/unplated-lincolns/
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01/26/2023 11:17 pm
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Excellent DATA. You nail all the suppositions here. PM me to has an interesting Doc for an DATA Dragon.
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