Antoninianii From Lugdunum. How Did They Produce Such Beautiful Coinage During This Period?

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CroftsCoins New Member Canada 15 Posts	Posted 02/26/2023 2:57 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 02/26/2023 4:08 pm Very nice spread of coins!..Lovely detail on both obverse & reverse... Are you sure the Tacitus isn't from Arles?..Not my collecting area so I'm probably missing something here. Report this Post to the Staff
CroftsCoins New Member Canada 15 Posts	Posted 02/26/2023 5:10 pm Thanks! This is its reference: RIC V Lugdunum 61 Tacitus Antoninianus 275-276ad, 23mm 3.8g Obv: IMP C L TACITVS P F AVG; Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right. Rev: SPES PVBLICA, Spes standing left, holding flower and raising robe / CA in exergue Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 02/26/2023 5:41 pm Thanks...Yes the reason I asked the question is the 2 examples on wildwinds RIC#61 has one Lyon and the other Arles? Report this Post to the Staff
maridvnvm Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2099 Posts	Posted 02/27/2023 04:33 am Arles was not operating during this period. A very nice set of coins. The Probus, which is my focus area is particularly nice and one I would welcome into my specialist Probus, Lugdunum collection any day of the week. Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 02/27/2023 05:01 am Quote: Quote: Arles was not operating during this period. Thanks Martin...Yes I see now Arles was only operational between 313-395?...Excuse my ignorance here but what is the mintmark CA representing? Edited by Palouche 02/27/2023 05:12 am Report this Post to the Staff
maridvnvm Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2099 Posts	Posted 02/27/2023 05:02 am The mint at Lugdunum was reopened by Aurelian in A.D. 274. It had not been in operation since Clodius Albinus issued coins there as Augustus in conflict with Septimius Severus. I have a strong liking for the coinage of Lugdunum. Here are a few examples from my collection. Aurelian Obv:- IMP C AVRELIANVS AVG, Radiated cuirassed bust right Rev:- PACATOR ORBIS, Sol walking left, right hand raised, left hand holding whip Minted in Lugdunum, (//A.L.). Emission 3, Officina 1. mid A.D. 275 Reference:- Bastien 7 (17 examples cited). RIC 6 Bust Type F Severina Obv:- SEVERINA AVG, Diademed and draped bust right on crescent Rev:- CONCOR-D MILIT, Concordia seated left holding patera and cornucopia Minted in Lugdunum (BL). End A.D. 274 to early A.D. 275 Reference:- Bastien 2 (12). Cohen 5. RIC 1 Tacitus Tacitus Antoninianus - RIC 049 Obv:- IMP C CL TACITVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right Rev:- PROVID DEOR, Providentia standing left, holding baton and cornucopia; at foot, globe Minted in Lugdunum (no marks), Emission 1, from October to December A.D. 275 References:- Cohen 64. Bastien 41. RIC 49 Bust Type C 4.23gms. 21.98mm. 180 degrees A youthful portrait of this elderly senator (75 years old) promoted to Emperor by the Senate. Florian Obv:- IMP C M AN FLORIANVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right Rev:- VIRTVS AVGVSTI, Emperor advancing right, holding a shield and spear, treading down captive. Minted in Lugdunum (IIII in exe) Emission 3 Officina 4, from September to October A.D. 276 Reference:- Cohen 107. Bastien 150. RIC 16 Bust type C Report this Post to the Staff
maridvnvm Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2099 Posts	Posted 02/27/2023 05:14 am My main focus is Probus:- Emission 1:- Obv:- IMP C M AR(sic) PROBVS AVG, Radiate, cuirassed bust right Rev:- TEMPORVM FELICITAS, Felicitas standing right, holding caduceus and cornucopiae Minted in Lugdunum (I) Emission 1, Officina 1. Early A.D. 277 Reference(s) - Cohen 729, Bastien 151b (151 has AVR and cites 15 examples). RIC 52 var Bust type F (C). Weight 3.53g. 22.85mm. 0 degrees Emission 2:- Obv:- IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG, Radiate cuirassed bust right Rev:- ORIENS AVG, Sol standing right, holding branch and bow, and treading down captive Minted in Lugdunum (III in exe.) Emission 2 Officina 3. A.D. 276 Reference:- Cohen 387. Bastien 169. RIC RIC 45 Bust type F. Weight 3.90g. 22.46mm. 180 degrees Emission 3:- Obv:- IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right; seen from rear Rev:- MARS VICTOR, Mars walking right, holding spear and trophy. Minted in Lugdunum (III in exe) Emission 3, Officina 3. November - December A.D. 276 Reference:- Cohen -. Bastien -, Batien Suppl I -. Batien Suppl II -. RIC 37 Bust type C var (not listed with this bust type) Obverse die match to Bastien 179 bust, which is FIDES MILITVM from the same emission Weight 4.53g. 23.51mm. 180 degrees Emission 4:- Obv:- IMP C PROBVS P F AVG, Radiate, cuirassed bust right Rev:- ABVNDANTIA AVG I, Abundantia, standing right, emptying cornucopiae Minted in Lugdunum (IIII in exe) Emission 4 Officina 4. Middle to End A.D. 277 Reference:- Cohen -. Bastien -. RIC 17 Bust type F var (reverse legend) 3.62 g. 23.64 mm. 0 degrees Emission 5:- Obv:- IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG, Radiate bust left wearing imperial mantle, holding Victory on globe in right hand Rev:- VIRTVS AVG, Soldier standing left, holding Victory and spear, left hand on shield. Minted in Lugdunum (//IIII) Emission 5 Officina 4. End A.D. 277 to start A.D. 278 (Bastien) Reference(s) - Cohen 821. Bastien 258 (7 examples cited). RIC 111 var (Not listed with this bust type in RIC). 3.80 gms Emission 6:- Obv:- IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right, seen from rear Rev:- FIDES MILITVM, Fides standing left, holding two ensigns Minted in Lugdunum (III in exe) Emission 6, Officina 3. 278 - 279 A.D. Reference:- Cohen 256, Bastien 278. RIC 79 Bust type C 4.56 gms. 23.29mm Emission 7:- Obv:- IMP C PROBVS P F AVG, Radiate, cuirassed bust right Rev:- MARS VICTOR, Mars walking right, holding spear and trophy; at foot, captive. Minted in Lugdunum (unmarked) Emission 7 Officina -. Summer A.D. 281 Reference(s) - RIC 35 Bust Type F (Scarce) From aureus reverse dies. Same reverse die as aureus - Bastien 301 Weight 4.12g. 22.42mm. 0 degrees Emission 8:- Obv:- IMP PROBVS AVG, Radiate, cuirassed bust right Rev:- COMES AVG, Minerva standing left, holding olive-branch and spear and resting left hand on shield Mint - Lugdunum (I in exe) Emission 8, Officina 1. Autumn - End 281 A.D. Reference:- Cohen 103, Bastien 344 (4 examples cited). RIC 67 Bust type F Weight 3.99g. 22.18mm. 180 degrees Emission 9:- Obv:- IMP C PROBVS • P • F • AVG, Radiate, cuirassed bust right Rev:- TEMPOR FELICIT, Felicitas standing right, holding caduceus and cornucopiae Minted in Lugdunum (B in exe) Emission 9, Officina 1. January to August A.D. 282 Reference:- Cohen 727. Bastien 439. RIC 129 var. Bust type F 3.34 gms Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 02/27/2023 05:57 am Do you know what the mintmark C A signifies? C = third officina? A = ? Report this Post to the Staff
maridvnvm Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2099 Posts	Posted 02/27/2023 06:23 am We do not know what the mintmark signifies. You are correct that the C is the officina mark but we do not know what the A control mark represents. I have examples with BA and DA in exe. There are other issues where these marks transfer to the left and right fields where the left field is a Greek letter for the officina but the right is an A control mark. In other issues the mint uses * as a control mark such as A - * and there are other issues where the officina is represented by roman numerals e.g. - \| * // III. example of //BA example of A-A example of Delta-* example of -\|*//IIII Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 02/27/2023 10:33 am Thanks again Martin...Nice coins by the way! Report this Post to the Staff
CroftsCoins New Member Canada 15 Posts	Posted 02/27/2023 11:25 am Thanks for posting everyone! This mint deserves a thread dedicated to it. Maridvnvm, we have the same taste! I'm a probus collector myself I have 20 antoninianii of him so far. I'll make a post later today! Fantastic coins from Lugdunum and very helpful info thank you If I ever decide to part with my fancy military bust from Lugdunum I will let you know first! Report this Post to the Staff
erafjel Pillar of the Community Sweden 2124 Posts	Posted 02/27/2023 3:54 pm Lovely coins from all! Lugdunum is one of my favorite mints too ... Here is a range of antoniniani from my collection. Aurelian, 2nd emisson, 274-75, RIC 6 IMP C AVRELIANVS AVG PACATOR ORBIS Tacitus, 3rd emission, 276, RIC 61 IMP CL TACITVS AVG SPES PVBLICA Probus, 8th emission, 281, RIC 91 IMP C PROBVS P F AVG PAX AVG Carinus, 6th emission, 283-84, RIC 214 IMP C M AVR CARINVS AVG SAECVLI FELICITAS Carus, 10th emission, 284, RIC 29 DIVO CARO PIO CONSECRATIO Diocletian, 1st emission, 1st phase, 285-86, RIC 91 IMP C C VAL DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG VICTORIA AVG Diocletian, 2nd emission, 286, RIC 43 IMP C C VAL DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG IOVI CONSERVAT AVGG Diocletian, 5th emission, 287-89, RIC 53 IMP C DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG IOVI TVTATORI AVGG Diocletian, 5th emission, 287-89, RIC 103 IMP C DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG VIRTVTI AVGG Maximian, 5th emission, 287-89, RIC 365 IMP C MAXIMIANVS AVG HERCVLI INVICTO AVGG Maximian, 7th emission, 290-91, RIC 399 IMP MAXIMIANVS AVG PAX AVGG Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 02/27/2023 5:28 pm Realised I do have one coin to contribute... Carus AE Antoninianus.AD282-283 Lugdunum. Obverse..IMP C M AVR CARVS AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust right. Reverse..PAX AVGG, Pax standing left, holding branch and transverse sceptre; B in left field. 4th emission AD283. RIC V-2, 13; Sear 12173. Edited by Palouche 02/27/2023 5:29 pm Report this Post to the Staff
maridvnvm Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2099 Posts	Posted 02/28/2023 05:24 am Carus Obv:- IMP C M AVR CARVS AVG, Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust right Rev:- VICTORIA AVGG, Victory, standing left on globe, holding wreath, two captives beneath Minted in Lugdunum (A in left field) Emission 4 Officina 1. 1st quarter A.D. 283 Reference:- Cohen 100. Bastien 474 (11 examples cited), RIC 24 var (Not listed with this bust type in RIC) Carinus Obv:- IMP C M AVR CARINVS AVG, Radiate, bust right in imperial mantle Rev:- SALVS AVGG, Salus standing right, feeding snake Minted in Lugdunum (_\|D / LVG), Emission 7, Officina 4. early A.D. 284 Reference:- RIC 216 var (not listed with this bust type in RIC). Cohen -. Bastien 574 (1 example cited) This would appear to be only the second example of this bust type for Carinus known Magnia Urbica Obv:- MAGNIA VRBICA AVG, Draped bust right on crescent, hair brushed in straight lines, plait carried up the back to top of head and running under stephane Rev:- VENVS GENETRIX, Venus standing facing, head left, apple upward in right hand, vertical scepter in left Minted in Lugdunum (A in left field). RIC V pt. 2, 337 var (not listed from this officina). Bastien -, Bastien Supplement -, Bastien Supplement II 613α (2 examples cited) 23mm, 3.16g Numerian Obv:- IMP C NVMERIANVS AVG, Radiate, cuirassed bust right Rev:- VIRTVS AVGG, Virtus standing left holding Vicotry, who is holding a wreath and palm and inverted spear Mint - Lugdunum (C \| _) Emission 9 Officina 3. Summer A.D. 284 Reference(s) - Cohen 103. Bastien 616 (3). RIC 400 Bust Type F. 4.74 g, 23.69 mm. 0 degrees Edited by maridvnvm 02/28/2023 05:24 am Report this Post to the Staff
maridvnvm Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2099 Posts	Posted 02/28/2023 05:34 am Sticking with Antoninianii Diocletian Obv:- IMP C DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust seen from the rear. Rev:- IOVI TVTATORI AVGG, Jupiter standing left with Victory & scepter, eagle at feet Minted in Lugdunum (P in exe), Emission 5, Officina 1. Autumn 287- Autumn 289 A.D. References:- RIC V part 2 Lugdunum 53 Bust Type C, Bastien 143 Obv:- IMP DIOCLETIANVS AVG, Radiate, helmeted cuirassed bust right Rev:- IOVI AVGG, Jupiter standing left, holding victory in right hand and leaning on scepter in left hand, at foot eagle.. Minted in Lugdunum (//A). 7th Issue, Spring A.D. 290 - 291 Reference:- RIC V Part II Lugdunum 28. Bastien VII 317 (16 examples cited) Maximianus Herculius Obv:- IMP MAXIMIANVS P F AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right (seen from front) Rev:- IOVI AVGG, Jupiter standing right holding thunderbolt and spear,eagle at feet. Minted in Lugdunum (//A). Emission 7. Officina 1. Spring A.D. 290 - A.D. 291 Reference(s) - Cohen -. Bastien - (0). RIC V Pt. 2 Lugdunum - Bust Type C. This reverse type not noted in RIC or Bastien for Maximianus Herculius. It is noted in RIC and Bastien for Diocletian (RIC quotes as common, Bastien 300 (1), 301 (1) and 302 (3) would appear to counter this rating) Constantius Chlorus Obv:- FL VAL CONSTANTIVS NOB C, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right Rev:- PROVIDENT DEOR, Providentia, standing left, holding baton and scepter; at foot globe Minted in Lugdunum (A in exe). Emission 10, Officina 1. 1st March A.D. 293 to 20th November A.D. 293 References- Cohen 237. RIC V Pt. 2 Lugdunum 635 Bust Type C. Bastien 506 (19 examples cited) Galerius Obv:- GAL VAL MAXIMIANVS NOB C, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right Rev:- CONCORDIA AVGG, Two concordia holding hands, each holding cornucopiae Minted in Lugdunum (B in exe.). Emission 10, Officina 2. 1st March to 20th November A.D. 293 References:- RIC V Part 2 678 Bust Type C. Bastien Volume VII 512 Weight 3.81g. 22.64mm. 180 degrees Report this Post to the Staff
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