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for all the morgan collecters out there how often do you find proof likes. I have a few. But that made me start to wonder . how many can there be . and are people trying to make them look frosty for the higher premium  |
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Scoutjim99,
Quantities of proof likes are available in certain dates for example: 1879, 1880s, and 1881s. Certain dates are elusive in PL. As for altering surfaces to make the appear proof like, this does occur, I have read that individuals may treat a coins devices with an acid or even auto body putty putty to make them appear frosty. I have not personally seen this, or had a coin returned from a TPGS for this reason, so I don't believe it to be common. I also believe the larger premiums paid for PL coins are in the highest grades 65 and up as in the lower grades these coins tend to accentuate hairlines, scratches and other problems. (Not very attractive.)
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thanks CommonCents it just seems like I have an awful lot of them an most collections dont seem to have any if not but one , they definatly look authentic enough. tahts all I try to buy in the affordable morgans that is . I most likley wont people to buy ms-64 CC in DMPL and some of the keys I might not even ever own in the worst condition
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Bedrock of the Community
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I have a prooflike morgan in just about 1/3 of the morgans set and some are DMPL,they arent that rare to find and some are even affordable in ms-64 and below grades. Now a real PROOF coin is very rare and can bring the big bucks, here is one that is on ebay http://a763.g.akamai.net/7/763/1644...PID/2156052. It is my goal to own atleast one real "PROOF" morgan before I am finished with my collection of morgans Edited by Bryan1315
03/28/2006 2:58 pm
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thats not a very good example of a PROOF morgan because of the toning but its a PR65 none the less. I think this one looks better but may not grade as high (but in my opinion the better looking coin) but I just dont like toned coins, some people love them   |
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yes you are right real proofs are RARE. Maybe some day for me to
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found the mother load of Proof like morgans maybe 50 or so all different dates I would say add 10 to 20 dollar premium on the average *(above their normal price)* to it because of the proof like apperance I was just wondering what any of your thought were
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PL Morgans are an odd lot that doesn't follow any set rules for values, as they're just as subject to conditional rarity as any other Morgan. There are years (1921 comes to mind) where you could get an MS66 or an MS62 PL at the same price. Other years (1885, for instance) offer very little additional value due to population. Having said all that, I'd take a frosty DMPL Morgan over just about anything else.  |
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Prooflike O mints Rule !!   At Least I think so !!! ;-)) Rick |
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since we are sharing DPL morgans here is my 1904-O  Edited by Bryan1315
04/28/2006 4:43 pm
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Edited by scoutjim99
04/29/2006 8:06 pm
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man I can tell these are scans, cant see the luster to see that they are prooflike, I will leave the grading to someone else because I am no good at grading scans And for all of you that helped me with my 1884CC you said it should grade MS-64 this is what PCGS thought about it and here are the pictures    |
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yeah you are right I am still learning both the computer and the camera aspects of the coin collecting I know it is a valueable tool nowadays but thank for the honesty. I also have to add I have a lot of coins both us and Abroad plus notes I think totally maybe 1-2million but I still do not have any coin That is Carson city or Dalonega that is a very nice CC proof like to boot WOW.. VERY Nice!!! I have to add how about those Pittsburgh Steelers Edited by scoutjim99
04/30/2006 01:12 am
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they look like very nice coins, I am just no good at grading scans at all, and with a scan you could never tell they are prooflike or deep mirror prooflike because they just dont show the luster of the coin. I think morganfred prefers scans because it shows all the little nicks and imperfections on the coin that a digital camera doesn't show. I will go out on a limb here and tell ya that I dont see anything on any of the coins that would cause them not to grade MS-63 or higher and possibly MS-66 on one or two, but please take into account my statement above before you get to excited..lol
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I was thinking at least ms63 I would nebver have considered ms66 and thats cool honesty doesn't hurt my feeling , and true I think the scans do show the nicks and soon, but I agree with your statment of the photos showing the luster and wether they are Dmpl or just pl. I will be working on that I am trying to cataloge everything I have as well as all of this right now but hopefully I will get better at the photo part.
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