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Finally Found My First "Leaf Over Arrows" Type H/RDV-008 Quarter! (1971-D)

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Been looking for these since I first got into error and variety hunting, and excited to finally find one! For whatever reason, multiple-squeeze era clad Washington quarter varieties are super hard to find in my experience, so very excited to add this to my collection. For those not familiar, the Type H reverse is a case of a high relief proof reverse being mistakenly used to strike circulating coins. Examples with this reverse can be found in four years (69-D, 70-D, 71-D, and 72-D), and all four are listed as extra rare on variety vista. Besides the high relief, the variety is also distinguished from other reverses by the leaf next to the arrow heads, which curls above the tips on this variety. Before having held one in hand, I had always assumed I'd need to see the leaf to ID one, but in hand, the relief was actually so striking I knew exactly what it was the second I flipped it over!


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When I read the title about a High Leaf, I assumed it would be the Wisconsin State Quarter with the mint sabotage. Congrats on your find! =)
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@Brandmeister Ironically, I added the descriptive title of "high leaf" to try to cut down on confusion by placing the key point up front in the title, since I know it's a variety many aren't familiar with, but seems like I inadvertently created more confusion since I forgot that moniker was already assigned to the Wisconsin! I'll edit it so others aren't confused.
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Great find! I had no idea that this variety existed! I'll have to keep my eyes out for these. I just learned something new today. If you don't mind, can you post a link to that reverse variety, so I can look?
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@Errers glad to make more people aware of these! They're a very cool proof reverse that is both super rare and not talked about very much at all for some strange reason. Here's a link to the VV page for all of the reverse varieties, if you scroll down to 008, you can see info on the known dies for all four dates (I believe only a single die is known for each one besides 1969-D which has two known dies) http://www.varietyvista.com/09b%20W...arieties.htm
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SamCoin, thank you very much for the link! Maybe I can try to cherrypick one off of ebay, if I get lucky.
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@errers good luck! I sometimes try that, but ebay cherrypicking isn't as fun for me as coin roll hunting, so I usually do it like once every few months, don't find one, and give up lol. I'm sure with enough persistence you could get a really nice one though!
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Not my area so I don't know what to look for really. I just checked the bay and a lot of them look like the tip of the leaf is above the arrow. Is this one of them? https://www.ebay.com/itm/332406710909
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Just noticed that the ones with the tip of the leaf below the arrow has a gap between the leaf and the arrow and the one with the leaf tip above the arrow has no gap. Is that right?
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@John that is not the coin you're getting on that listing. Many sellers use a generic picture of the coin and sell many examples of BU coins from behind that stock image. In that case, they either accidentally used a picture of a proof (for which it's standard) or deliberately chose the variety as their stock image to try to entice buyers. Looks to me like they just used a picture of a proof, based on the fields. If you can find a BU example selling on ebay, BUY it immediately if the price is reasonable, since this is a very rare variety (I've searched hundreds of coins of all four dates both in rolls and attempting to ebay cherrypick one and this is the first I've ever seen. Wiles lists it as extra rare for a reason.)
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@John just noticed I forgot to respond to the question at the end of your previous post


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Just noticed that the ones with the tip of the leaf below the arrow has a gap between the leaf and the arrow and the one with the leaf tip above the arrow has no gap. Is that right?


Yep, this is exactly correct! There are several business strike reverses that were used for those years, but all of them have a gap between the tip of the arrows and the leaf, and none of them have the leaf extending above the arrow tips. The proof reverse, RDV-008, extends above and has no gap.
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Nice one !
I found a 1970-d rdv-008 in a partial roll of unc. coins some years ago. http://goccf.com/t/250939&SearchTer...70-d,rdv-008
Rdv-008 also doesn't have the doubling inside the Q of Quarter
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@Stoneman wow! Yours is a gorgeous example. Awesome coin.
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Congratulations! I've never heard of these.
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