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1964 Cent, Reverse "Ghost Bust"

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 Posted 08/26/2023  11:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Enyaw to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was going through some uncirculated rolls and found a number of coins with this "Ghost Bust" on the reverse.
I was wondering if anyone has seen this before and/or what could produce this feature?
There are no die clash marks just this ghosting of the Queen's bust on the reverse.
Photos 1 and 2 are a couple examples under the microscope and photo 3 is a photo with my Iphone.
The 4th image is a flipped obverse that is slightly opaque and superimposed on the reverse and it seems to fit the Ghost feature quite well.
Photo 5 is the obverse of one of the coins.

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 Posted 08/26/2023  11:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ghosting is one name for this but not the proper name.
I believe it's called indirect design transfer.
Unlike a clash where there is direct die to die contact it is a transfer of the image from one die to the other through the struck coins.
Every time a coin is struck a small amount of energy is transfered from the obverse die to the reverse die and vice versa.
After many strikes, with certain designs, and under certain conditions the accumulated transfered energy eventually deforms the opposite die.
Very common on silver dollars, often seen on other denominations.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 08/27/2023  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Enyaw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting, thanks DBM.
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 Posted 08/27/2023  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SP67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I confirm DBM error description.

Progressive Indirect DesignTransfer.

Some additionnal information here:

https://www.error-ref.com/progressi...gn-transfer/

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