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Weird Laws Reagrding US Notes In Canada?

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I went to my local money mart (check cashing center) today to buy some US notes. Usually I can find a couple that are pretty much UNC or EF and the rest I just put away as rainy day money (or to sell if exchange rate is worth it)

Today when I asked for notes, I was quickly glancing through them to see condition (and if there were any silver certificates) of the $1 notes while the cashier looked for some $5 notes for me as well. He thought I was searching for older years and told me the weirdest thing.

He said that there is a new law that prohibits money exchange centers from buy or selling any note that is older than the year 2000!

How crazy is that? I told him that sounds strange since you can spend pretty much any currency made in the US past for face value at the stores in the states. He said that is true but in Canada; stores, money exchange places and banks are not supposed to accept anything pre 2000.

Anyone know why this is? Any one else even heard of this?

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 Posted 03/31/2009  01:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr Finger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really dont think that guy knew what he was talking about....Id like to see that law in writing...
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no kidding! You know it's funny, at another money mart I was told that they only accept british pounds for exchange if it is paper currency. As if the british pound coin is play money or something. she told me she had never even seen one before. Kind of strange for a chain of currency exchanges that don't know how to identify the money.
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Hey malissadawn, I have quite a few 1995 series notes, mostly in EF, some better. I'm looking to put together a set of circulating (the current series) Canadian notes. I bet we can help each other
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I think the people who work there need a little more training....thats just rediculous
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I agree with you Mr. Finger. pm sent to you wd :)
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Most misconceptions regarding "foreign" currency are usually started by people who don't know what they're talking about. It is probably typical for Money Mart not to accept the older series because of the possibility of counterfeit notes, realizing that most of their staff likely couldn't tell the difference anyway.

It's not too different than those places that just won't accept Canadian $50 or $100 bills over the counter, because these have been counterfeited by scanner quite easily -- and management doesn't tell them that the newest ones are pretty much counterfeit-proof because of the metallic strip running down the left side. Their underlings are usually not known for their common sense, so they just don't accept any, period.

It's not a "law", it's likely just Money Mart's own regulation.
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What is currently on the Canadian Bills?
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It's not a "law", it's likely just Money Mart's own regulation.
I agree with that assessment. Saying "it is a law" usually ends all discussion and arguments. It may dissuade the customer from taking their business elsewhere; leading them to believe that no one will be able exchange the older notes.
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As if the British pound coin is play money or something.


Unfortunately a lot of it is. The UK's Royal Mint has recently doubled its estimate of fake 1 pond coins in circulation. They believe that as much as 2% of all these coins are counterfeit.
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You know it's funny, at another money mart I was told that they only accept british pounds for exchange if it is paper currency. As if the british pound coin is play money or something.

Around here, no money-changers deal in "fiddly small change"; they all only accept notes. If you bring home a bucketful of foreign coins, the only thing you can do with them to exchange them for money is sell them to a coin dealer - and they'll only pay you by the kilogram, rather than try to give you actual face value.
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The change thing is true of banks here too and has been for as long as I can remember. At least since the seventies when people started to go abroad for their hols en masse, banks have only taken notes back in and not coins.

Recently with the advent of the Euro you can sometimes get the larger Euro coins at travel agents, but no other foreign coins as far as I know.
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Well, the thing with coins is that they're much harder for banks to store and deal with, which costs them money. Notes, on the other hand, store easier and are usually worth more, and are cheaper to ship. It's all a matter of banks keeping their costs down.
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I think he was just pulling your leg. Next time you go in there you should inform him of the new tip your customers law.


I have seen stores which now reject old $50 and $100 bills, maybe they are trying to do the same with old U.S. bills.
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The older notes are much easier to counterfeit; all one needs is a good quality scanner and some paper, and the average person can be easily fooled. Don't forget that pre-1988 or so there was no frenzied movement to foil counterfeiters, since back then there was a lot of work involved, having to create plates, getting a press, developing the right shade of ink, etc. Technology in the form of better photocopy machines and scanners basically made it easier to counterfeit, and anyone could now do it. In the US, this led to (in sequence) an extra oval of microprinting around the portrait frame on the higher value bills, a whole new series (the "Big Heads") with color-shifting ink, and an even further new series incorporating colored underprinting, watermarks, etc. It's a lot for the general public to keep up on, and since very few collectors (who are better educated about counterfeits) handle our money, you see dumb little rules passed off as laws to an unknowing public.

In the case of old (Canadian) $50 and $100 bills being rejected, let's put it this way -- if the bill turns out to be a fake, that's a lot of money to be deducted from the check of the average 7 Eleven cashier (who is the person who will ultimately be made to cough up), especially if he was instructed not to accept the older notes.

It's more of a case of better safe than sorry, especially since the company would be the last one to take it on the chin over counterfeit bills.
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