Question: Are There Really '74 Small/Large Dates?

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shathe Valued Member United States 178 Posts	Posted 09/05/2023 5:23 pm i can easily tell the difference on '60s, '70s, etc. but supposedly there is also a '74 small/large date. the '4' is supposed to be the key, but honestly I don't see a difference. any advice on identification? Report this Post to the Staff

SamCoin Pillar of the Community United States 3237 Posts	Posted 09/05/2023 5:32 pm Yes. The 9 of the large date is much thicker (like way thicker), and the E is a different shape in WE. There are other differences, but I find those the most noticeable. Neither is worth above face value. If you want to see what they look like, just check under obverse design varieties on variety vista. Report this Post to the Staff
shathe Valued Member United States 178 Posts	Posted 09/05/2023 5:40 pm Quote: Yes. The 9 of the large date is much thicker (like way thicker), and the E is a different shape in WE. There are other differences, but I find those the most noticeable. Neither is worth above face value. If you want to see what they look like, just check under obverse design varieties on variety vista. thanks. mostly I just wanted to be able to tell the difference if there was one. I've seen a few images, but like I said I really could see any difference. i'll check out variety vista to look for those markers. [EDIT]: umm... where do I look? lol. I only see doubled dies and RPM sections... Edited by shathe 09/05/2023 5:42 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6452 Posts	Posted 09/05/2023 5:47 pm When you see them side-by-side under magnification, the difference is not subtle. The first time I ran across a 1974 large date—which also happened to have machine doubling—I thought for sure I had found a doubled die. All the numbers are super thick compared to the standard variety. Both varieties were used for about half the year, so neither is rare. https://www.lincolncentresource.com...es/1974.html http://www.varietyvista.com/09d%20W...arieties.htm Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6452 Posts	Posted 09/05/2023 5:49 pm Report this Post to the Staff
shathe Valued Member United States 178 Posts	Posted 09/05/2023 5:57 pm oh, ok. I can see it a bit now. I didn't realize it would under the DD section in vista. I've notice the '9' in the 2019 cent is more often than not a lot fatter than the other numbers in the date. I think wexler's documents this pretty well (2019 1¢ WMDO-001 https://doubleddie.com/2474337.html ), but I've just been tossing them because it's almost every coin. :p thanks for the image brand. that's really FAT! seriously looks like a doubling. Edited by shathe 09/05/2023 6:02 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94728 Posts	Posted 09/05/2023 6:06 pm Here are the comparisons: Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
shathe Valued Member United States 178 Posts	Posted 09/05/2023 6:10 pm it's so weird, everyone I've seen until now always says "look at the 4!!" it's even in the image on Lincolncentresource.com, but the '9' is very obvious! weird... Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 73628 Posts	Posted 09/05/2023 6:21 pm https://www.lincolncentcollection.c...%20is%20tall. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
shathe Valued Member United States 178 Posts	Posted 09/05/2023 6:24 pm Quote: https://www.lincolncentcollection.c...20is%20tall. ooh, very nice pics. thanks Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 09/05/2023 7:24 pm I'm currently going through a bag of 74Ds that has both Sd and Ld in it. I look at the hair on top of Lincolns head. The Sd is sometimes called the crazy hair variety. There's a cow lick that sticks out on the very top of his head. And yes most of the Lds are thick. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 09/05/2023 8:19 pm I find this distinction too subtle for a major classification. Report this Post to the Staff
SamCoin Pillar of the Community United States 3237 Posts	Posted 09/05/2023 8:37 pm @coinfrog not sure what you mean, but the change isn't limited to the date. It also affects the font used on the motto. I'm also not sure what you mean by a "major classification," since obverse and reverse die varieties aren't separated by the magnitude of the change. In fact, ANY known change to the previous design qualifies for a new variety. Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6452 Posts	Posted 09/05/2023 9:34 pm Look at the 4? Huh. The post of the 9 and 7 are way more visibly different. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94728 Posts	Posted 09/05/2023 10:04 pm Another difference is with the inner curve of the 9 and how it terminates square at the end on the thin date, on the thick date the 9 ends rounded. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
shathe Valued Member United States 178 Posts	Posted 09/07/2023 5:44 pm Quote: Look at the 4? Huh. The post of the 9 and 7 are way more visibly different. i think it's vista, but I could be wrong. one of the sites has a picture of the '4's that I was squinting at thinking, with all the PMD that's on most '74s, i'll never be able to tell the diff. the 9 an 7 are way more obvious. oh, here it is: https://www.lincolncentresource.com...es/1974.html Report this Post to the Staff
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