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1944 D Lincoln Wheat Cent - DDO FS-101 ?

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Still searching a few more Wheat cents and ran across this one. Looks like it could be the FS-101. Let me know your thoughts.
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Looks familiar, nice find! =)

I can see that elf shoe E in We just from the full coin picture. Looks to be in good condition, too. Congrats.
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Sorry, that is not it. It is WDDO-025. Note the lack of strong distortion on the first 4 of the date, and the mint mark position on your coin is too low for DDO-001 (compare spacing between the mm and the first 4). I recently submitted an example of this die to VarietyVista, as without that die on there, even PCGS has on occasion defaulted to DOO-001 incorrectly.
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Heh, well that's probably for the best if you're getting it graded at PCGS, since they might reject a similar variation that is a WDDO and not a full fledged CPG FS variety.

I have sometimes wondered if certain doubled dies shouldn't have umbrella listings for all similar variations, with maybe a sub-code to identify a particular die.
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101 is very noticeable even without magnification. The 9 is right but everything else isn't. Not feasible to grade.
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As an update, I got my results back from Dr. Wiles today and my submission of an example of WDDO-025 has been given the attribution number on VarietyVista of VDDO-017. It's not up on the site yet but should be soon, so hopefully this will help folks sort out these two very similar dies.
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Wow, you discovered the coin and got it attributed and listed in less than 2 weeks? I've been waiting for more than 2 years on several discoveries sent to CONECA.
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I tried working with CONECA, which is a great organization, but on this end they seem to lack much organization at all. I ended up not submitting anything to them, and while I haven't looked in a while their website was nearly unusable for attributing the known dies. But since Dr. Wiles has continued to add coins to VarietyVista, well, that's clearly the way to go. And for this round 7 of the ten coins I submitted were accepted and attributed as new dies (the other 3 were too minor) That said, the team taking over the Wexler site is absolutely top notch, and they have been working hard improving it with tons of updated coins. It won't be long before the Wexler site, with its more complete catalog and far more die markers listed will be pretty much the first place to go to. Coppercoins also has added a ton of new dies over the last year or more, but I'm not sure that he is actually taking any submissions at this point.
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