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Coins Found. What Are They Worth?

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 Posted 03/30/2006  05:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let's not forget the rest of the pennies, either. Depending on the mint marks of the 1920, the rest have a book value of upto about 10,000 in total. Could buy a good second hand car for that too.

Steve.
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 Posted 03/30/2006  06:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lim118 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW !!! That 1930P...I am not an expert, but it does look like the real riggy diggy to me.

There are three members here who I know can verify the authencity of this coin, namely, Secret Squirrel,thesandpit and Guest.They do drop by now and then, hopefully they will see your post.

If you are impatient, I would suggest posting this scan in the Aussie Coins, Tokens and Banknotes Forum nad ask the members there.S_S is the Administrator of that Forum and I am sure he will point you in the right direction.

Jon Saxton (triton)based here in the US is one of the authorities of the 1930P and he is also a member of that Forum.
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 Posted 03/30/2006  08:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guest1595 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry to spoil the party Mattski, but the '30 penny looks like a forgery. The "0" of "1930" is wider and more round in the real McCoy.... However, it does look like a nice fake and if u can get $500 for it, that's not too bad a price, considering how good and cheap current fakes are selling for on ebay.
Best wishes with your collecting and welcome to the forum !


P.S Check the "0" of the date of the coin in my avatar for comparison.
Edited by Guest1595
03/30/2006 08:19 am
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 Posted 03/30/2006  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add secretsquirrel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a fake unfortunately. It has the Birmingham reverse.
Most likely started out as a 31 Indian which would have been worth quite alot in that grade.
Edited by secretsquirrel
03/30/2006 08:45 am
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 Posted 03/31/2006  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thesandpit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1930 penny is a very poor forgery, possibly cast rather than struck and quite a recent invention. I have seen some of them offered recently on ebay.

I have images and a discussion on my website.
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 Posted 03/31/2006  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thesandpit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So in spite of what he has been told, this has been listed on ebay as a genuine coin, including carefully selected posts from this forum. I am very disappointed in forum members giving uninformed inaccurate opinions that are not backed up by any facts.

scam

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 Posted 03/31/2006  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lim118 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What the

Now this is not on....thanks for bringing it to our attention t_s_p.
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 Posted 03/31/2006  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
TSp, I hope your dis-appointment is towards the seller and not the innocent members who just gave their opinion to an originally innocent question.
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 Posted 03/31/2006  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have sent the seller an email, to remove our names and opinions from his auction immediatly.

i have also email ebay.
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04/01/2006 12:07 am
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 Posted 04/01/2006  01:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grendelfreak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Notice how the screenshot ends before it is determined to be a fake.

Its already up to $103.01 Australian, this aint cricket!
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 Posted 04/01/2006  01:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thesandpit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please accept my apologies. I realise everyone was just trying to be helpful. It is unfortunate these days that we have to be very wary of some individuals. Consider that the accepted figure for the number of 1930 pennies minted varies from the high hundreds up to 3,000. If we take the upper limit and since the total number of pennies minted was about 750 million, the chances of a given penny being a genuine 1930 is 1 in 250,000. So what is the chance of finding a genuine 1930 penny in a small bag of coins.....?
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 Posted 04/01/2006  02:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The auction has ended.
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 Posted 04/01/2006  04:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guest1595 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a revised version of that listing....

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1930-Austral...cmdZViewItem


Mattski, may I suggest that you try and put the words "Fake" in larger and bolder front early in your listing to minimise chances of any misunderstadings with potential buyers.

Also, to use selective quotes such as :


"Looks like the real deal"

"Could be worth thousands if genuine"

"What a find!!"

"Looks like the real thing to me"




...in your listing only serves to discredit you. It seems that you are basically taking advantage of help on this forum to mislead inexperienced buyers into thinking that somehow this coin may indeed be genuine and bid it up accordingly.

You have firstly taken things out of context by using our words of encouragement; to a newby in the world of numismatics; and turning it into support for your ebay ad, aimed at possibly deceiving other newbies.

More importantly, you have betrayed the invaluable help and support that other forum members have tried to provide, and that is not a always a good start, especially if you are here to learn.

Finally, a word of advice. It is the consensus of many that private listings on ebay only serves to ring alarm bells as to the legitimacy of the bidding.....just my 2 cents.





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 Posted 04/01/2006  05:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with all that was said above.

I will add:
that it is better then the first one, still not a honest auction but it is better.
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 Posted 04/01/2006  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even the screen shots were edited.

Here is another one of his auctions.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Become-an-In...cmdZViewItem
Please delete this link if you think it is offensive.

I didn't know that this guy was the same character.

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04/01/2006 09:40 am
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