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1887-Morgan Textile Toner Tuesday For Grading (Also Laundry Day :/)

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I love it.
Thankful for your input


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AU details, cleaned.
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IGE calls it.
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Thanks, dang whats the giveaways
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Toning does not look the same on an uncirculated coin as a circulated coin. Simply by the appearance of the toning can one tell this coin is not original. The lack of luster confirms this coin is in the low to mid AU range. The unusually bright surfaces besides the unnaturally radical toning on usually mean that a coin has been cleaned.

Textile toning by definition has a clear weave pattern (usually canvas) visible through the color. I see none of that here.
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I agree with IGE.
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Toning does not look the same on an uncirculated coin as a circulated coin. Simply by the appearance of the toning can one tell this coin is not original. The lack of luster confirms this coin is in the low to mid AU range. The unusually bright surfaces besides the unnaturally radical toning on usually mean that a coin has been cleaned.

Textile toning by definition has a clear weave pattern (usually canvas) visible through the color. I see none of that here.


Thank you, do you mean that it is artificial toning?

I see here that luster is in the toned areas. There is a special place in heck for coin doctors
I will ask for refund thank you I really appreciate it.

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That new photo makes it look like the coin was naturally toned but worn after, brightening up the high points. Perhaps used as a pocket piece.

Either way it is not an attractive AU example, or not market acceptable.
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but still cleaned or just worn/circulated?
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Can't tell for sure, but I don't see anything that makes this coin appear polished or harshly cleaned. The brightness would be a turn off for many collectors regardless of the coin's past.
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AU details (questionable color)

a natural toned coin would not exhibit the sharp edges seen on the obv this coin. when a coin looks like the toning is sitting on top of the surface there is high probability of an AT coin. looking at the first obv photo closely on the field around the bonnet one sees spots (dots) of darker blue color. this is indicative of some type of liquid being used on the surface. putting those together I don't think its natural
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