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Mike Rest in Peace United States 2884 Posts	Posted 03/10/2005 05:36 am Oh well I've got to ask, I know that grading companies build master sets of actual coins in various grades in order to more accurately grade coins. Doing this is most certainly out of price range for the average collector. Has anyone thought of developing by type "replica"(clearly marked as such) coins in various states of preservation that could be sold as sets for collectors to use to aid in hands on grading? Photo grading books are great but still not the same as a coin in hand, I know most collectors would not buy all the sets but people with specific interests could buy sets for their specialties and share them through clubs and such. Is this way out or does it seem like an idea? What do you folks think Mike In my experience it has been very helpful to have another coin of a different grade handy when trying to grade another, especially in MS. Report this Post to the Staff

zakgold Valued Member United States 382 Posts	Posted 03/10/2005 08:44 am Well take Morgan dollars for instance..."S" mints typically had much better quality control than "O" strikes, so what would constitute MS64 for a "S" strike would probably be MS66 for a "O" strike. Sorry New Orleans...all in all, Morgan dollars from that mint had sloppy standards compared to the other mint strikes. So with that said, do you have a model for the various mints/years? Also, I attended a seminar and the presenter stated you still can have a MS strike for a Buffalo nickel even though the horn may not ne visible (for certian strikes). See where I am going? But I am with you...I get lost from AU55 to MS65 (the slider range). It never fails, I think I have a MS65 and the buyer thinks it is MS63/64 and when I think it is MS63, the seller thinks it is MS65. Report this Post to the Staff
Mike Rest in Peace United States 2884 Posts	Posted 03/10/2005 09:31 am I'm sure the list could get very large with endless exceptions but I was talking about something basic,as a training tool not a do all end all. I don't think subjectivity will ever leave grading and slabbing a coin even with the top PCG's does not insure that a coin will sell for the prescribed grade. I know the big boys preach about NGC and PCGS slabbers being able to be traded "sight unseen" but real world experience has taught me that the coin gets bought,not the slab! Thanks for the input! Mike Report this Post to the Staff
Susanlynn9 Forum Mom United States 5877 Posts	Posted 03/10/2005 09:42 am In my opinion, the best option as a visual aid in grading would be good, clear digital images. Because there are so many different strikes to consider for many coins, it is simply not possible to have a "master set" to grade from (unless you have millions of dollars). Although this is very prevalent in Morgan dollars, it holds true for many other coins as well. Many images can be collected over the internet and compiled into a collection that you would be able to refer to. I would suggest close-ups of coins graded by a single company (either PCGS or NGC). I would not mix the two because their grading standards are slightly different. Report this Post to the Staff
Morgan Fred Rest in Peace United States 2684 Posts	Posted 03/10/2005 10:22 am The cost to make such a set, even if only for a single series, e.g. Morgans in which there would be dozens for each date and mint, would be staggering. Report this Post to the Staff
Mike Rest in Peace United States 2884 Posts	Posted 03/10/2005 2:24 pm O.K. I guess I didn't think this one through. I like the idea of collecting good digital images of various grades off the net and saving them in files to upload and compare with coins I am about to purchase and/or sell. Thanks for the ideas!!!Mike Report this Post to the Staff
national dealer Pillar of the Community United States 2724 Posts	Posted 03/10/2005 7:00 pm The gallery mint reproduces all the major key dates in the same size and material as the original. They can even make errors and off centers. All the coins bear the word copy on the them. They even make them toned or circulated. http://www.gallerymint.com/ Report this Post to the Staff
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