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Fake Gela Tetradrachm

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 Posted 06/19/2024  3:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wizened to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers

Fake-Gela-Tetradrachm
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Fake-Gela-Tetradrachm

I am 99% sure this is a fake. Obtained at local coin shop in the cheap coin bin. But out of curiosity I checked it out a little when I got home and it was not obviously fake. 17.82 grams, about right. Specific density 10.06, which would equate to 75% silver if it were a silver coin. 4mm thick. 22-24mm diameter. Quality of impression very good. It seems to me to have casting bubbles.

So anyone able to tell me why it is obviously the fake I presume it to be, or does it deserve further consideration as possibly real.

Thanks,



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 Posted 06/19/2024  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice looker!
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At least it's not the commonly-seen mass-produced Readers Digest coin that will turn readily turn up if you put "Gela tetradrachm" into this forum's search function. But some things about your coin are raising alarm bells for me.

Fabric: this coin looks way too thick for a Greek tetradrachm. Looks like to "get the weight right" they've gone the Indian route and made it super-thick.

Composition: 75% silver is too low. Back in 400 BC when this coin was purportedly made, these coins were struck to "as fine a silver as their technology level could make it", which was over 90%, usually around 96%. If 90% silver is definitely ruled out by your SG tests, it's definitely fake.

Style: the artwork looks... "half-finished". Some parts of the obverse design, such as the bull's legs and the woman's face, are rendered in 2-dimensional outline - as if the artist meant to go back and finish but never got around to it. And the reverse looks much more cartoonish than the genuine examples of the type that I'm seeing online.

Examples for comparison:
https://www.worldhistory.org/image/...chm-of-gela/
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=453488
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=9543192
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 Posted 06/20/2024  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jecz79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Edge picture shows it is not good.The extra thickness must be to compensate for the use of a lower density metal. Who made this wanted to get the weight right.
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There's a similar one at numismaticfakes, second coin from top:
https://numismaticfakes.wordpress.com/tag/gela/
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Here's one with Petr Sousek's stamp - from Antiquanova. So, it's his work.

https://forgerynetwork.com/asset.as...kAXoGRTwh4k=
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