wow, ok I had to replace my mouse after all that scrolling to get to the bottom after all the images. Please do do that again. you are asking about the date, so next time upload 1 image of each side of the whole coin (properly cropped) then a few (less than say... 2 or 3 of areas of concern.) also only one coin per topic - you mention in your text about 2 of them (I can go back to check, but that is a long way back to the top and back again.
With all these images, I lost track of where coin 1 stopped, and coin 2 started (if there were 2 coins.)
In the end - it does not appear to be an over date coin(s)
Marve's date position photo is a big help. The date numbers must line up with the denticles exactly as shown. Also, it should be noted that the rim Cud is not always present.
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