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*** Edited by Staff to Add Year / Mintmark to Title. It's very important to have in the title. ***All, New user here (first post, HI!), casual collector going back 50+ years. My wife and I recently have revisited coin collecting, and gotten more active. Part of that recent activity has been searching rolls from banks. A few months back I was searching small dollar rolls, and found what appeared to be a clad Sacagawea dollar. Now, this thing is beat to death, lots and lots of PSD. The edges are so torn up that the copper core is clearly seen under the silver. I am not concerned with potential value, I understand as badly as it is beat up there is little value there. However, I am interested in how uncommon this potential error might be. But, I am not sure exactly what I am looking at. I posted the question, and images, on a Reddit coin forum, but all I got were comments about how impossible this was, or you could not tell, or simply "damaged". So, I thought I would try some other sources. Asking the question here, is it possible I stumbled on a Sac on an SBA planchet? Pictures attached, can anyone shed light on if this probably is, or is not, an SBA planchet? First image, 2000 P Sacagawea, my mystery coin, and a 1999 P SBA, obverse:  Second image, the same coins, reverse:  Third image, the mystery coin showing edge damage, and exposed core:  Thanks, T! (edit) Sorry, not sure why the images are not showing up, the links work perfectly for me. Edited by OriginalToken
07/24/2024 6:16 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Sac dollars are clad with a copper core. This is normal.
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07/24/2024 6:40 pm
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OriginalToken,  John1  |
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 to the CCF! |
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to CCF Image links seem to be broken here..  I hope Bobby (Admin) can fix this for you. |
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To CCF! There's a lot of PMD going on with your coin. As far as the color goes, it might be plated. Errers and Varietys.
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Howdy all, thanks for the welcomes. Also, copy about the year / mint mark in title, thanks.
As for the possibility of this being plated, and thus the silver color, the cladding appears to show the silver color all the way to the core, and the exposed core shows no silver, so I think plating is unlikely.
T!
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to the Community! The images were hosted on an insecure site (invalid SSL certificate), so most browsers are going to block the embed here. I uploaded the images to CCF for you. It is always better to upload them here instead of linking offsite for the reason above and many others. |
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to the CCF Just a lawnmower coin. |
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Thanks jbuck! - always learning here.
as for the OP's coin (in the center) - that is just a heavily damaged coin, it is on the correct planchet (a clad one).
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Whenever you see a coin with "multiple issues", it's always simplest to assume that the multiple issues all have a single ultimate cause. Occam's Razor says it's much more likely that one horrible event happened to a coin, than multiple separate improbable events happening sequentially.
In this case, we have (a) an odd colour, and (b) severe post-mint damage. So the most reasonable assumption would be that whatever did the damage, also caused the discolouration.
In this case, a feasible explanation is the coin fell into some kind of high-speed machinery - a wood-chipper or something similar. This caused the beat-up appearance. The coin then was presumably lost in the environment (where it became corroded), then found again some time later. Whoever found it cleaned up the corrosion, causing the discolouration.
Golden dollars don't circulate much in America, so there's little experience with what they look like once they get environmental damage. But like any other brass, the gold colour of the outer layer is easily disrupted chemically, so that it no longer looks golden.
This coin is now so badly out of shape, and has probably lost enough mass, that it now qualifies as "mutilated", and it is doubtful whether it it is still legal tender.
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Golden dollars don't circulate much in America, so there's little experience with what they look like once they get environmental damage. But like any other brass, the gold colour of the outer layer is easily disrupted chemically, so that it no longer looks golden. They do circulate - in El Salvador and Ecuador - and you occasionally see them in lower grades. About as expected. Details worn pretty flat, an unappealing dull gold, grey, or brown color. There are a few lowball Sacs posted in a thread on the PCGS forum, but we can't cross-post here and you'll have to dig through a 4 page thread. -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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They do circulate - in El Salvador and Ecuador - and you occasionally see them in lower grades. Indeed.  A speculated example... http://goccf.com/t/179561 |
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