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1932-W 10 Zlotych NGC To PCGS Crossover Advice

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 Posted 08/14/2024  12:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add joe_77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone

I got my hands on this 1932W 10 Zlotych slabbed as MS63 by NGC. I want to put it inside a PCGS holder and I am debating whether to send it in raw or crossover.

What is your opinion?

Here's the NGC link: https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/6772420-012/63/
PCGS coinfact: https://www.pcgs.com/valueview/10-z...172803&h=pop

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Thanks a lot!
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 Posted 08/14/2024  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arkadyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keeping it in the holder will be an additional motivation for the PCGS grader to keep the currently assigned grade.
So, I guess it depends on what you want to accomplish:
If you are concerned that it may grade lower- keep it in the holder
If you are looking for a higher grade- take it out.
I actually agree with the current grade and would expect the same.
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 Posted 08/14/2024  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My thoughts exactly,
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Thanks you both for your help!


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Keeping it in the holder will be an additional motivation for the PCGS grader to keep the currently assigned grade

I never tried to crossover so I have no first hand experience. I read PCGS graders might implicitly lean towards downgrading so this sparked the doubt on whether to submit raw or not. Obviously a higher grade would be welcome but at the same time it was not my primary concern. Submitting raw was more to make sure the crossover is not bias.

I can live with an MS62 in PCGS holder but at the same time it would drive me nuts imagining it was downgraded just because I put on the form something lower than MS63 to make sure it crossovers (which is paramount for me since I want the coin in a PCGS holder).

Thanks in advance for your guidance!
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 Posted 11/18/2024  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joe_77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello everyone!

Good news today! I ended up following your advice and did a crossover without specifying a lower minimum grade (and without cracking it out), so it was either a MS63 or nothing.

Just got word from PCGS that the crossover was successful!

Thanks all
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 Posted 11/23/2024  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joe_77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you jbuck!

Here's PCGS TrueView (plus a little of my editing).

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Here's PCGS TrueView (plus a little of my editing).
Looking good!
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That's an absolutely fantastic coin, joe 77 - congratulations!
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Thanks again jbuck & Hondo
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Just curious, why did you want it in a PCGS holder?
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Just curious, why did you want it in a PCGS holder?


It's mainly because I dislike the NGC holders with a passion and have all my coins in PCGS ones.
Then.. if I want to find more reasons: I trust a PCGS grade more than an NGC one, I believe it demands a larger premium all other things being equal, the pics taken are better, etc.
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Ok, I have something like 200+ slabs. Only 2 are NGC
The rest are PCGS, and a couple some Canadian guy gave me, that really aren't slabs at all.
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My complete graded IKE set is PCGS, although I have four extras that are NGC. I do like the PCGS holders more.
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