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Does Anyone Have Any Insight On The 2022-D Ls Penny?

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 Posted 12/22/2024  1:17 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dykil93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Sorry about the long read, but I've been struggling with the different Coin finishes for the Lincoln Penny like the Satin, or SMS etc. With that being said, Can someone explain the difference in the "2022-D 1C Shield First Strike" from other strikes. Looking at the pictures provided on PCGS(included below), The first difference I see is the regular business strikes in high grades have a white-ish frosty like coating that kind of reminds me of the Memorials texture for a Proof, Like the 2022-D 1C Shield, RD PCGS 47087526 for example, however The 2022-D 1C Shield UNC Set First Strike, RD MS67 PCGS 46018775 shown below, looks pretty pretty close to the 2022-D 1C Shield, RD MS67 PCGS
46625846. I understand that PCGS is very strict with Coin submissions, and if you for instance labeled the wrong thing, they would void the request and send it back, making the individual resubmit. Would PCGS tell the individual if its a "First Strike", if the individual didn't pay for the $150 full inspection fee? Is it possible that is how the coins looks so close? If that is not the reason, then how can an individual identify the difference? I see on the First Strike examples on PCGS the background has a bunch of stacked horizontal lines that go from one side to the other. Also I'm taking a guess that the "UNC First Strike" comes in a set, but how would the mint know if it orginally did, if it wasn't sent with the set. Is there another way to determine the difference between UNC and a very high grade regular business strike?

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2022-D 1C Shield First Strike, RD
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 Posted 12/22/2024  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "First Strike" designation is given to coins that are submitted for certification within the first 30 days of their release. It has nothing to do with finish - they are no different from all the rest. It's just a marketing gimmick, in my humble opinion.
The Uncirculated Set coins do get some sort of mysterious special treatment from the Mint so they should appear nicer than standard business strikes.
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 Posted 12/22/2024  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hondo Boguss, Really? Very interesting! Well just call it a pyramid scheme haha. Why is there such a difference between the finishes though? Possibly a TrueView image compared to a basic high-definition image? Thank you for the information!
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 Posted 12/23/2024  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're welcome, Dykil93. Yes, as you stated, the differences are in the photography. Many times people here have posted a pic of their coin along with the TruView image and they are quite different - in both directions. Toning is the most variable, as if it depends on who took the TruView, the time of day, day of the week, etc.
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And I forgot to address this:

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Would PCGS tell the individual if its a "First Strike", if the individual didn't pay for the $150 full inspection fee?

I wonder if PCGS automatically uses the "First Strike" label on all qualifying submissions, or if it must be requested (and applicable fees paid)?
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You have to ask for the designation, and it's only $18. More here: https://www.pcgs.com/firststrike
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 Posted 12/23/2024  03:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gigi2110 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great information! Thank you Dykil93 for ask that question, I was wondering the same and thank you Hondo Boguss for answered
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Thank you for the insight and update Hondo Boguss and Alpha2814 !! Cheers gigi2110
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Copper is one of those metals that's hard to replicate consitantly on a color scale. Meaning, I've searched brand new rolls of cents and found many varing shades. Which may also explain how they look from one image to the next. The Manganese dollars are also another example of color variation.
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