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 Posted 05/23/2009  8:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Thallos to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all. A couple of years back I picked this up in eastern Europe. I payed next to nothing for it, but I don't know if it is a fake or authentic and if it is authentic, if it might be worth anything. I've posted the links for a couple of pictures, I hope they are good enough to see some detail. If anyone could let me know if this looks like it might be the real deal that would be great. Thanks for your time.

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http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/...DSC02713.jpg

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 Posted 05/23/2009  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not an expert, but that coin has never been in the ground. Lettering doesn't look authentic, either.
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 Posted 05/23/2009  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the ground?
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 Posted 05/24/2009  07:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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In the ground?

All ancient coins come from the ground; there's no such thing as a coin that's been "kicking around in various collections" for over 2000 years; no collections are that old. All surviving ancient coins have been excavated from some kind of archaeological context, relatively recently.

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...Lettering doesn't look authentic, either.

The coin is (or at least, it claims to be) a denarius of Marc Antony; the writing seems to match the style of coins of the time; compare these examples on CoinArchives.

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A couple of years back I picked this up in eastern Europe. I payed next to nothing for it...

Right there is the biggest reason to mistrust the authenticity of this coin. Eastern Europe, particularly Bulgaria, is a renowned hotbed for fake ancient coins. And, as you can see from the CoinArchives references, this coin is quite scarce, and was both issued by and made to depict a famous historical figure (Marc Antony, of "Antony and Cleopatra" fame). You'll also notice that all the examples shown of this coin are in worse condition than this one is in, and they sold for over US$1000 each. Eastern Europeans aren't stupid; they know that if they acquire genuine ancient coins, they can get lots of money for them. They won't just give them away to tourists.

So... apart from it's provenance, what signs are there that it might be fake? There's the small "bubbles", particularly noticeable on the obverse, where Marc Antony (the younger-looking, non-balding fellow) has a huge "mole" on his cheek. That to me is a telltale sign of a cast copy; a "bubble" or hole in the moulded die has created an "anti-hole" on the coin.
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05/24/2009 07:14 am
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 Posted 05/24/2009  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But on the good side, you paid next to nothing for it and it makes a pretty neat pocket piece, and a souvenir of your trip.
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This is one of the better cast copies I've seen of this coin.
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