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Ghettomark 1943 Poland Does This Look Real

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Hello, zero experience of these but I guess they might be faked a lot since its ww2.
This is sadly the only pics available, I don't own the coin but its for sale


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Not sure about authenticity, but I had to find some background on these pieces. This site implies they are rare.

https://archives.jdc.org/lodz-ghetto-currency/
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thanks JB
yes they seems to be scarce and valuable so that raises the posibility of them being faked

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A Polish Lodz Ghetto 20 mark coin, circular and made from metal composite, the obverse features the legend "20 MARK" in centre with "QUITTUNG UBER" inscribed in scroll device over the denomination, encircled around this is the following legend "DER AELTESTE DER JUDEN. IN LITZMANNSTADT.", on reverse is a large six-point star with legend "GETTO 1943" inscribed underneath, this is encircled by a circular border interspersed with small stars at regular intervals.
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Hey Moniker, hope you had a nice vacation. Yes, these coins are extremely rare and very valuable - if authentic. However, it seems that 99% of the ones encountered are fake.
Here is a previous thread that has a picture of a genuine one:
http://goccf.com/t/297476
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Thank you Hondo, semester was great Cyprus is a nice place.

Great link
odds not looking promising, atleast it has the right "bend" on the band at 11 oclock.
As I suspected there are lots of counterfeits,
It comes with a 14 days refund if I'm able to snag it for a low price, we will se
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if I'm able to snag it for a low price

I would rather be certain that it is genuine than try to save a few bucks. There are some Warsaw Ghetto coins for sale on MA Shops (link at top of page).
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Interesting piece of history if genuine but I haven't a clue
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I would not go near one of these except through an auction house with the right expertise (WCN, Niemczyk, Marciniak, maybe some others).

And we have a member who is an expert.
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And we have a member who is an expert.

@gumer. Moniker, you should get in touch with him. He hasn't been on in a year, but has been very helpful with other members considering one of these tokens.
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I would rather be certain that it is genuine than try to save a few bucks. There are some Warsaw Ghetto coins for sale on MA Shops (link at top of page).


yes but unfortunatly only reproduction 20 marks. Non of them has the "bend" in the inner ring at 11, might not be a valididation but still better chance


I would not be willing to pay full price fo an item like this. Sometimes I enjoy finding bargains and have a hard time resisting them. So far I have been lucky and got great help thru CCF and books. And I enjoy the learning experience The good thing with this is that full refund is offered if I win it. Its a rare peace of history of dark times.

Thank for info about Gumer I will reach out
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Sometimes I enjoy finding bargains and have a hard time resisting them
Worst case, another item for your black cabinet.
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Hello. Thanks for asking. It's a counterfeit. Regards. Jacek.
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Hello. Thanks for asking. It's a counterfeit. Regards. Jacek.


Thank you alot Gumer, saved me time and effort
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