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This Liard Of France With Juvenile Bust - Louis Xiv 1657 Is A Fake Right?

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 Posted 04/13/2025  12:48 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add recollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This coin is supposed to be struck with 2 obverse dies. But when I check the weight of a normal coin
Weight 3.824 g
Diameter 23 mm
Thickness 1.0 mm
and compare with mine

Weight 5.67 g
Diameter 22.77 mm
Thickness 1.8 mm

Im thinking that 2 coins were just stuck together somehow. I show that there doesn't appear to be any separation when looked at from the side, but a lot of wear could have hidden the separation and made it look like a single coin.

Does this sound reasonable?
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 Posted 04/13/2025  05:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These were struck in huge numbers with very low quality control, if at all. Weights vary widely, from a little more than 2 g up to more than 5 g, and even though 5.67 g is indeed extreme, I wouldn't rule it out as a possibility. Misstrikes with busts on both sides are not uncommon, but command a premium.

Here is another one, also quite heavy: https://www.cgb.fr/louis-xiv-le-gra...90211,a.html
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Neat coin!
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