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PCGS Error Attributing 1942 DDO FS-104 That I Just Had Slabbed

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I recently submitted a 1942 Lincoln Cent DDO FS-104 to PCGS for grading. Everyone from Community Coin Forum who commented agreed that it was a DDO FS-104.

https://goccf.com/t/483694&SearchTe...LUTONIANFIRE

PCGS not only called it FS-101 but it "looks like" PCGS either Photoshopped or selectively photographed the doubling on top of the "1" of the date that clearly showed it was FS-104.

Please see PCGS photos:

https://www.pcgs.com/trueview/60894721.

Now please take a look at attached photos below that I just took of the slabbed coin.

In addition to the doubling on top of the "1", I have also included photos of doubling on the motto of the slabbed coin that further supports FS-104.

Please also see photos that I included with my submission included below.

In the cover letter to PCGS accompanying my submission, I requested that they contact me if they didn't agree with any of my assessments. They never contacted me.

Lastly, the alignment of the slabbed PCGS coin is so poor that if the coin actually was a 1942 DDO FS-101 it would not be possible to clearly see the die scratch marker between the rim and the bust.

I know that some graders at PCGS are capable of correctly attributing the 1942 DDO FS-104 because I had one graded that was MS65RD TopPop (please see below). The only difference is that I sent the TopPop coin as a Regular submission, whereas I sent the erroneously attributed DDO as an Economy submission. I wonder whether inexperienced graders are assigned to Economy submissions? I'm really not sure how to get this error resolved without paying for another submission.



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Currently the variety attributions coming from PCGS are pretty bad. Almost every submission I make has 1-3 coins that are wrong. I can't say what the best way to fix their errors is, but since it is obvious your coin is mis-attributed I can tell you what I do with that kind of thing. The next time I submit coins, which is every few months, I put all the problem coins on a separate form, note the problem and correct attribution (often including a letter from an attributing service like VarietyVista or Wexler's), and send it in with no payment amount in those blanks. I put the words "Service Request" on the form and anywhere else it asks about what grading level is being requested.

Usually I submit a bunch of different things at the same time, all of which need separate forms. At some point between the crossovers and the reholders they come across this one. So far they have always fixed the problems and sent the coins back to me free of charge. Your milage may vary.
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TROPICALBATS,

Thank you for the detailed response! The approach that you describe sounds terrific.

I guess if you've got so many submissions that you're using multiple forms, it would behoove PCGS to be circumspect about the slabbed coins included on the "SERVICE REQUEST" form.

However, my next submission will be about two dozen coins (including one that I purchased on ebay from you, I think).

Have you used the PCGS "Bulk Grading Submission" option for Error/Variety coins? I think you only need 10 of each type and a total of 100. As per one of my prior posts, I've got four 1917 Lincoln Cent DDO FS-101 coins that Forum members agreed with me on. I also have about a half dozen others that I didn't post. Also about 10 of 1936 Lincoln Cent DDO FS-102, 1936 Lincoln Cent DDO FS-103 and various RPMs. It's a terrific deal but even with the bulk rate it's a lot of money to invest if there are question marks concerning the PCGS attributions.




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I really haven't looked into the bulk stuff. A lot of varieties aren't worth submitting even in MS65 and I never really have a whole pile of 66 coins of the same variety. But I suppose it would be worth thinking about, since the reduced cost could actually make those 65's cost effective to submit. The math works this way for varieties. If you submit one regular coin it comes out to be about $98 after grading fees, form fee and shipping. Submit a bunch and you can get it down to about $60/coin by watering down the fees/coin ratio. ebay fees are 10% and other auction houses even more, so selling the coin for $70 is the bare minimum break even point. But...if you could have just sold the thing for $25 RAW, well then you are losing money unless the graded coin sells for at least $95. Given that it is pointless and time-consuming to break even, in general a coin should have a resale value of about $125 before it's even worth the time and trouble. And all that assumes you have almost nothing in the coin to start with.

Lots of folks would like to have their better coins in a PCGS slab, but overall the cost is very high. Submit 20 variety coins and you will pay a bill of $1,200 for the service. That's a lot of money going away. My annual grading fees come in over $10,000, and I would love to not have to put that kind of money in the PCGS pocket as it just runs the price of everything up. But at some point the expensive stuff is just worth a lot more after it's graded since buyers know it's a solid coin and not cleaned or damaged.

All that said, ANACS is a great company and does a whole lot better with varieties for a whole lot less money. Their slabs don't bring in the top dollar on the back end, but it's less than half the money up front. With them I do have a bulk agreement and submit large numbers of variety coins at once for a better price. It takes them 4 months to get the coins done, but it's always rather a good day when that box arrives. That project is actually on my list this week, as it takes a couple hours to put that whole submission together.

Best of luck
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