Coin Community Family of Web Sites
300,000 items to help build your collection! Specializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Shop CCF Members on eBay! Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Help! When To Clean Or Not

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 7 / Views: 1,306Next Topic  
Pillar of the Community
Nic's Avatar
Philippines
1156 Posts
 Posted 07/08/2009  05:06 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nic to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
in various posts of other members, I read a lot of concern about cleaning coins, I do that a lot as I do not like the yellowish patina that's on the silver coins- when I buy them, but am now horrified to learn cleaning isn't good value. I clean with toothbrush and strong laundry soap, that brings a silver dollar to a shiny metal.
My question is, what's the coin's physical condition in which I should leave it alone as "tarnished" or should I clean? my preference-shiny metal for me looks great!. Thanks!
Pillar of the Community
SeatedNut's Avatar
United States
2797 Posts
 Posted 07/08/2009  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nic

You're not going to like this answer ... if you want your coins to keep their collector value, you have to stop cleaning them. The damage done is irreversible. If you don't care about collector "value" and just want bright, shiny silver then clean away. Unfortunately without sophisticated methods you can't have both.
Moderator
Learn More...
Sap's Avatar
Australia
16805 Posts
 Posted 07/08/2009  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say, and most collectors would agree, that you should never clean a coin, just because it looks "tarnished". On coins, "tarnish" is called "toning" and it's considered attractive; removing it will make a coin less desirable to most collectors.

They're your coins, of course; you're free to collect whatever you like, and do with them as you please. But be aware that most collectors will disagree with your opinion, and you (or your heirs) will pay the price later when they are sold; the coins will be worth much less than they should have been.

Never clean uncirculated coins. Cleaning them effectively causes wear equivalent to time in circulation, greatly reducing their value.

Never clean heavily circulated coins. They'll just look ugly and "un-natural". A heavily worn coin should look it's age, and is not going to be made to "look like new" by being cleaned - it will simply look like a cleaned coin.

There are, of course, exceptions to every rule. Examples of coins that you CAN clean are:

- coins covered in actual, physical dirt from being buried in the ground or coins that have been damaged in flood, fire etc.. You can use whatever happens to work to clean such coins, because whatever you do to them, they'll probably always look "cleaned". Begin with gentle treatments (distilled water, soapy water, olive oil, etc) then if that doesn't do the job, move on to more noxious things (electrolysis, assorted acids, ammonia, sodium hydroxide).

- coins that have been kept in nasty plastic coin albums where the pages or holders have all turned green, and covered the coins in sticky goo. Use acetone, alcohol, petrol or some such solvent to remove the sticky stuff. The coins will probably be damaged anyway, but if the goo is left there, even more damage will occur.

- coins with severe "contagious" corrosion. Copper and bronze coins are prone to "bronze disease", where a pale greenish powdery corrosion spot forms then, if conditions are good, slowly spreads over the surface until eventually the whole coin becomes a crumbly green mess. Aluminium and zinc coins can also develop such "cancers". This needs to be treated, often quite severely, to prevent further damage. The resulting coin will look cleaned and corroded, but further damage has been prevented.

- war medals. Nobody can persuade an old soldier that his war medals aren't supposed to be all nice and shiny, so we've given up trying.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts
 Posted 07/08/2009  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For me the answer is rather simple. If you buy something and you want it to look like what you want it to look like, do with it as you wish. It's YOURS. If you have a coin and you want it to look pretty, shinny, reflective, clean the heck out of it. Dip it, rinse it, whatever, it's YOURS.
Now on the other hand if you have a coin or any old object and you are concerned about the future value of that object, keep your cleaning agents for your car tires. Ever watch the Antique Road Show on TV? There they constantly stress to keep any item's value don't mess with it. No cleaning, sanding, polishing, etc. Original is the key word.
Note at any car show the old cars are kept as original aa possible. One small changed item and there go some points.
If you plan on selling, giving or leaving (per a will) your coins, DON'T CLEAN THEM.
Pillar of the Community
Nic's Avatar
Philippines
1156 Posts
 Posted 07/08/2009  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, really appreciate the detailed response, will do a 180deg turn on the allure of bright polished metal. Never thought of it that way! thanks again
New Member
United States
25 Posts
 Posted 07/09/2009  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ultvikefan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I started collecting in the early 70's we all cleaned with jewel luster, then a mix of lemon juice and luster. Now that I have restarted I too am finding out no clean is the best clean.
Valued Member
timer's Avatar
United States
129 Posts
 Posted 07/09/2009  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add timer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am in the "no cleaning" school. I would rather have a 1900 Morgan that has that natural toned color than one that has been dipped in some harsh solvent to make it look "blast white". In fact when I see mail order ads in some coin publications that advertise "blast white BU Morgans" I am always a bit sceptical and wonder if they are more like "blast white dipped sliders".
Valued Member
hrhomer's Avatar
United States
117 Posts
 Posted 07/09/2009  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hrhomer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I clean some of my el-cheapo silvers. Stuff I find in circ that may just be worth melt value, I like looking at it shiny. But anything worth more than melt value, I leave the way I found it.

Joe
  Previous TopicReplies: 7 / Views: 1,306Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.23 seconds to rattle this change. Forums