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Two Mysterious Coins (Id: 9th Century Abbasid Dirham And Artuqid Dirham)

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 Posted 08/25/2009  5:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DagonX to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi!
Any ideas about these two beauties?

Coin #1 - silver, about 23mm, 2.84g
Two-Mysterious-Coins-Id:-9th-Century-Abbasid-Dirham-And-Artuqid--Dirham

Coin #2 - silver, about 20mm, 2.22g
Two-Mysterious-Coins-Id:-9th-Century-Abbasid-Dirham-And-Artuqid--Dirham

Thanks for any help!
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 Posted 08/27/2009  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aussie87 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hi, coin number 1 seems to be a dirhem from umayyad or abbassid dinasty. on the picture on right I can read:
LA ALAH ILLA ALLAH = There's no God except Allah
UAHDAHU = He's the one
LA SHERIK LAHU = He has no partners

named: the monotheism proclamation

but I can't read the year and the mint issue...sorry!

but try to look in this direction.

for second coin...it reminds a moroccan star...try searching in hammered currency of maroccan sultans!

i hope to be helpful...!

ciao!
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 Posted 08/28/2009  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The second one looks like a silver Durham of the Ayyubids. I think this one is a close match:

http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/ancie...071205214800
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 Posted 08/28/2009  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice coins sorry I know nothing but had to add my two pence.
they both look very harshly cleaned and then dipped. hope I'm wrong
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 Posted 08/29/2009  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Frazzle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
those first two look like chocolate vanilla cookies.....MMMMMMMMMM!
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 Posted 09/02/2009  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
they both look very harshly cleaned and then dipped. hope I'm wrong

Cleaned mediaeval coins are "normal". Coin collecting was virtually unheard of back when these coins were new; all the surviving specimens that are around today were buried, and dug up again relatively recently; all such coins would have been cleaned. These coins look like typical hoard finds, with the coins piled together, partially protecting each other from the surrounding soil.

Coin #1 is indeed an 'Abbasid dirham. The mint-name appears to be Isfahan, a city in what is now central Iran. I read the date to be "8 and 90 and 100" - 198 AH, or 813-814 AD.

Coin #2 is a "star dirham", similar to the Artuqid one in this thread. Unfortunately, the date is off the flan on your coin.
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 Posted 09/02/2009  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DagonX to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately these coins aren't mine...
Anyway, thanks a lot for help!
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