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 Posted 09/15/2009  10:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add warjag to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Mainly GB and Canada. I need a real good book. Money is no object. I just received 4 token collections from 1711 through 1925.

Is there a good website?
Thanks in advance.
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 Posted 09/16/2009  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TokenDave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some of those token could be what are known as Conder Tokens (mostly from the 1790s). These tokens were issued by local merchants in order to provide change (and political commentary) during a period of scarcity of official GB coinage. They are beautiful and full of symbolism and humor. The standard reference is as follows:

The Provincial Token Coinage of the 18th Century
Dalton & Hamer
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 Posted 09/18/2009  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add warjag to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks.....Wow what an expensive book!

I need a website to subscribe to or Dave whats your number? :)))))
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 Posted 09/25/2009  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add warjag to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well Dave I have to admit. I have found nothing but the $375.00 book that you mentioned. Do I have enough of these tokens to justify this buy? Well I just do not know.

The money is no problem is something I was not expecting. Cough...Cough
Tokens are a blast!
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 Posted 09/26/2009  05:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TokenDave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To see if you have enough Conder tokens to justify the purchase, google "Conder Tokens" and look at a sampling of the images. Also, if you wish, post a couple pictures from your collection (British from the 1790s) and I will identify them for you.

Although I have collected official U.S. Coins extensively, my true passion has become tokens and medals -- Civil War, Hard Times, Transportation, Conder, Political Medalets, So-Called Dollars, Washington Medals etc. In each case, obtaining the key reference texts has dramatically enhanced the experience.

You are very fortunate to have obtained the token collections.
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 Posted 09/26/2009  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've also got some experience with Conders. Be interesting to see what's made it across the ocean.
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 Posted 09/27/2009  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just remembered this:
http://www.napoleonicmedals.org/coins/DandH.htm
It may help.
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 Posted 09/27/2009  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

And this:
http://www.coinsandstamps.com/forei...ns/index.htm

is usually good for reference.
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 Posted 10/17/2009  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daltonista to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For Early 19th-Century England, Ireland, Wales, and Channel Islands,
the authority is "British Copper Tokens: 1811-1820" by Paul & Bente Withers.

Aside from the Dalton & Hamer book itself (D&H), Bill McKivor's pricelists may help with
pricing some of them out. He's at https://www.coppercorner.com. Same goes for Allan Davisson's
lists and archives at http://www.classiccoins.com. He's the publisher of the most recent editions of D&H.

For some subspecialties and other eras in Britain, you'll need to check into Atkins, Bell,
and Boyne, all of whom are available online in their entirety, I believe, via Google Books.

For silver, go straight to Richard Dalton's "Silver Token Coinage: 1811-12." I've got the book,
but I've seen it online too, at: http://www.archive.org/stream/silve...n3/mode/2up.

For Canadian, pick up the "Charlton Standard Catalog of Canadian Colonial Tokens."
Sixth edition current, 7th expected by the end of the year. (Relatively cheap paperback.)

Any that you can't identify can be posted here, of course, for a little help from your friends.

(I've been collecting this kind of material for about 35-40 years now.)

I'm jealous!
Tom




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--- Mario Andretti


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 Posted 10/17/2009  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daltonista to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My apologies...it looks like I can't just paste URL's into these posts.

On top of that, I got the first one wrong.

So, taking it from the top, the correct links are:

www.thecoppercorner.com (I left the word "the" out of the URL provided in my original reply.)

www.classiccoins.com is correct for Davisson's.

http://www.archive.org/stream/silve.../n5/mode/2up should take you to Dalton.

One last fix: Scotland is included along with the other British Isles in all of the references I've cited.

Best ~
Tom




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