The second coin was likely a purchase gone wrong. The seller was most likely taken in and he is trying to recover something. That happens all too often to honest guys.
I got a reply from the seller in the first case. He sees the problem with an early date ONZA and now is of the opinion that under magnification - he thinks the 8 is really a 9. But that doesn't help the problem that you pointed out - the color - and the obvious fact that the coin simply does not appear to be made from real dies.
I got a reply from the seller in the first case. He sees the problem with an early date ONZA and now is of the opinion that under magnification - he thinks the 8 is really a 9. But that doesn't help the problem that you pointed out - the color - and the obvious fact that the coin simply does not appear to be made from real dies.




















