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My Latest Hostage: 1852 Zacatecas...but Other Than That?

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 Posted 11/10/2009  11:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Ok, was reading about old pesos somewhere, lost the reference but remembered one particular coin that caught my eye. This little jewel came up for grabbs and I had to have it...but I really don't know much about it. Ideas?

My-Latest-Hostage:-1852-Zacatecas...but-Other-Than-That???

My-Latest-Hostage:-1852-Zacatecas...but-Other-Than-That???

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 Posted 11/11/2009  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buzzard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a Flying Eros 1/4 Real from the state of Zacatecas. This design was struck in Zacatecas over a period of almost 40 years. The obverse shows a flying Eros carrying a radiate Liberty cap on the point of his arrow. The reverse has a pyramid, the open book of the law, and a wreath.

The Flying Eros coinage was minted in brass (.640 copper, .360 zinc). The other Mexican states that issued their own coins all used copper. One consequence is that counterfeiting, which plagued the other state issues, wasn't a major problem in Zacatecas.

The Flying Eros coins, like the other Mexican state issues, ceased production in the 1860s when the coinage was decimalized.
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One last thing...the denomination is located at the bottom of the reverse: QUARTILLA.

Last last thing...the legend reads: ESTO LIBE FEDO DE ZACATECAS
(but with the smaller letters O, E, and O elevated and with a dot under each one)
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That explains why I couldn't find it! Thanks for the info, glad it's not just another generic coin...

Eros - is that referring to the greek word for love?
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Before I go and de-value an expensive coin by trying some cleaning methods...what's it's max value?

Any suggestions on cleaning brass? Glad I got this one!! :)
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Eros was a Greek god of love, same as Cupid for Romans.
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This coin lists in Krause for $2.50 in Good, $5.00 in Very Good, $8.00 in Fine, and $20.00 in Very Fine. Krause doesn't give values for any Mexican state issues in conditions higher than Very Fine, which makes me suspect that they are uncommon in better condition.

Other than Zacatecas, the other Mexican states that issued their own coinage were Jalisco, Durango, Guanajuato, San Luis Potosi, Chihuahua, Sonora, Sinaloa, Occidente, and Nueva Vizcaya.

Minting base-metal coins was a profitable activity for the state governments. They therefore coined all that the market would bear. The Federal government minted even more - over one hundred and fifty million Federal copper pieces for a nation of only about seven million inhabitants. The Mexican Republic ended up flooded with enormous numbers of copper coins of varying designs and sizes, including masses of counterfeits.

Finally, the coinage of copper was prohibited entirely in 1837, and all the copper in circulation (except the brass of Zacatecas) was devalued by half. The cessation of state-issued copper was only temporary, however. Eventually, the states re-started production of copper coins - it was just too profitable to resist.
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Buzzard, that is GREAT info! I have a much better idea of the history of the copper that I see around here. There are good samples to be found and now I know why they are SO plentiful!!

Any idea on which ones are good to look for?
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