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the first and the second are similar I think the ruler was stephan and from Poland The 3rd coin is hard to see another I brought back from Iraq some of the info I have is Lu'Lu'ID of Mosul a copper dirahm 631Ah 1234-1259 and some other numbers I wrote down that I do not remember ME-277

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 Posted 05/22/2006  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coins 1 and 2: they're both 1 solidus (aka schilling or szelag) from Danzig (Civitas Gedanensis). The only "King Stephen of Poland" was Stephen of Bathory, ruled 1575-1586. According to his Wikipedia article, Danzig refused to recognize him as king and was besieged until the end of 1577, so these coins must date from 1578-1586.

Coin 3: I don't know enough to do anything other than trust what the Iraqi guy says it is: a bronze dirham of Atabeg Badr al-Din Lu'lu, founder of the Lu'lu'id dynasty, who ruled in the city of Mosul (now in northern Iraq) in AH (Islamic calendar) 631-675 (= AD 1233-1258). The "head in square" type is dated from the start of his reign (631/1233) and is catalogued as "common". The reference numbers I have are Marsden: M181 and Stephen Album: A1874.1.

Islamic rulers from around this time and place were almost unique for using such pictorial motifs on their coins; most Islamic coins have only got Arabic writing on them. It's a pity the portrait on your coin hasn't survived the centuries very well.
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 Posted 05/22/2006  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
actually he did not give me any info, I found all of that I had use of some other books and it took quite a bit to find. once again thank Sap
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I have a number of those Islamic iconographic coins, and some of them remain unidentified. So far, I haven't come up with a good way to identify them; references on this material are scarce. The upside is that they are usually inexpensive because few people know what they are. Most that I have seen have not survived well; yours looks very much like many of mine.

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Yeah it cost 50 cents and is worth more to me because of the memories that come with it some good some bad, but either way you cant put a price on them, and you are right on the info part, Info is scarce on these pieces and welcome back havent seen you in a while. Or I haven't read your Typing in a while that is..lol
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I've been here regularly; however, I don't have a lot of time so I only check a few threads and I don't always post a lot. Once a forum attracts me, I never go away even if my activity level is seldom high.

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