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Help Identifying Detecting Finds | China, England & Bavaria

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I found these coins yesterday metal detecting. I would be grateful if someone could identify them for me. The small round silver coin is 15mm diameter. Thanks.

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The first is a chinese cash coin - not quite enough detail for me to tell the type but most likely someone here will. The second is a long cross silver penny by the look and size of it.

The third looks prehaps like a token/ medal, I can see the word Konig, German for king, and date 1824, along with XXV so I would guess the 25th jubillee for the king of a german state. Prehaps the German state it is from is on there, I just can't quite make all the writing out.

Hope that helps to get started
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First one is a Chinese cash coin. For further identification, our member Sap is your man.

Second one is British, and looks to be an Edward IV or Richard III Groat (fourpence)...someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but these two monarchs look almost identical in their portraits.

The third one is German, and I'm thinking that it looks like it's from Bavaria -- the right side of the heads side says "Koenig Van Baiei..."(can't quite make it out) -- the German word for Bavaria is Baiern or Bayern.

I'll leave it all for those more expert than I to elaborate on more fully.
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Update regarding the third one -- it is Bavarian, and 1824 would be a significant date in the life of King Maximilian I, so it must be a medal of his twenty-fifth anniversary.

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"On 16 February, 1799 Maximilian Joseph became Elector of Bavaria and Count Palatine of the Rhine"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximi...h_of_Bavaria

The 3rd item seems to be related to the 25th anniversary of this fact.
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Glad I was right on the 25th celebration on the last coin, wish i'd managed to get the king name though. Good ol' wikipedia
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Yeah, you called it, Jeff.

It's wild that the ground in England is full of so many varied coins.
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thanks guys your comments have been very helpfull.yeah its amazing the amount of different coins I find.my best to date is a gold half giunea 1777.
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#1 is indeed a Chinese cash, from the Qian Long (Ch'ien Lung) Emperor, reigned 1736-1795. the reverse mintmark is Board of Revenue, Beijing. Your pics are upside down.

#2 is a penny of one of the Edwards, II or III I think, from the Bury St Edmunds mint (reverse mintname VILL SCI EDMV NDI). Not too dissimilar from this one on UKDFD.
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#2 is a penny of one of the Edwards, II or III I think, from the Bury St Edmunds mint (reverse mintname VILL SCI EDMV NDI).


The mint name was my main landmark for identifying it. The late coinage of Edward I from St Edmunds (classes 9 and 10) has the same legend though. Now, looking at the obverse I strongly believe it is class 15A with a flatter crown whose left tip going into the legend. If I'm right then it is Edward II, minting period 1320 - 1335.
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WOW is all I can say..that is true treasure !
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