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1869 3 Cent Nickel With Cud.

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I bought this 3 center yesterday at my local coin shop. I noticed a Cud on the reverse. Does this add any more value to the coin. David

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Interesting.. it looks like a Retained Cud. The piece breaks off but is still retained in the same position and lives to strike one or more coins. You can see slight weakness on the obverse opposite the Cud, so maybe it's actually more than one break (a smaller piece completely broke off and the larger piece was still there when it struck this coin?).
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 Posted 12/21/2009  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice sized Retained Cud
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david29, I'm not sure how much value it adds, but I know error collectors would probably like it! Hopefully one of our experts will pop in here to verify the diagnosis and any premium it adds.
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The Three Cent Nickel and Shield nickel series tend to commonly have a lot of cracks, Retained Cuds, and full Cuds. For that reason they usually do not command any great premium unless they are really impressive. I don't think this piece would qualify. Sorry.
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 Posted 12/22/2009  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow.. next time I should have more coffee before posting.. I didn't even see your reply, Bio!

conder.. I didn't realize that series was so prone to breaks like that. Still a cool coin
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Thanks everyone for your comments. I didnt pay any premium for it. I was just going through the dealers type coins and saw the Cud. I figured the price I paid was worth it.
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The first 75/25 CuNi coins, the 3CN and Shield nickel, wreaked havoc on the dies and it took them awhile to adjust to the difficulty of working with that alloy. Advances in die steel and tempering/annealing technology eventually helped (mostly)overcome those difficulties.
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