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Armavir~civil War Coinage

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 Posted 12/23/2009  11:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DJB1968 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
While there were numerous banknotes issued during the Russian Civil War, there were very few coins issued during this period. However, ARMAVIR in the Caucasus, was one area that issued local coinage. They had three denominations 1, 3 and 5 Ruble coins (the 5 Ruble coin being the rarest of the three), all dated 1918. The two specimens listed a 3 Ruble (Type 2), and a 5 Ruble coin. All coins from this area carry the double-headed eagle stripped of it's crown and regalia, symbolising Russia's former glory.

Armavir~civil-War-Coinage

ARMAVIR (MUNICIPAL)~3 Ruble (Type 2) 1918

Armavir~civil-War-Coinage

ARMAVIR (MUNICIPAL)~5 Ruble 1918
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 Posted 12/24/2009  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Armavir and Odessa, two cosmopolitan cities where you could find "devil on a chain" for sale at a local market early after Russian revolution. They said 99% of "imported" good of early Soviet Russia were manufactured there. I wonder, though, where Armavir municipality found the mint to strike those. Do you have that info, DJB?
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Hi 'svslav'. Unfortunately, I have no info on the area in reference to the mint. These coins are so scarce that finding detailed info is next to impossible. Armavir now resides in former Soviet Armenia. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

~Daniel
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I don't believe we're talking about Armenian Armavir here. The money were issued by the Russian sister city in Krasnodar region in Northern Caucasus. I may be mistaken but I'm pretty sure Russian Armavir was more important (famous, notorious, etc..., you pick). I'll look more into it tomorrow.
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they're certainly well-struck coins.
thanks for the history, again; but it sounds like the geography isn't quite nailed ... yet.
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 Posted 12/24/2009  08:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DJB1968 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry if my location might be off a bit. When I look up the name 'Armavir' either online or in books, it mentions it be located in Armenia. Regardless, they are nice looking coins.

~Daniel
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OK, I wasn't able to find any direct reference to the particular Armavir (I'm still travelling away from home; but even though I have a handful of books on Russian history at home I doubt I'd find there anything about money issues). Nevertheless I have a couple of reasons to strongly believe the coins are from the Russian one.
1st, Armavir, Armenia is on the far side, away from Russia, close to Turkey; there was not much going on there during the Civil war. I don't see any reason why it would issue currency separate from the rest of Armenia or Transcaucasia.
2nd, Armavir, Russia was known for major war activity in it's proximity. Frequent change of control and fear of consequences of aligning the municipality with a particular side might very well force the authorities go with the "neutral" money.
I will keep my eyes open for more compelling proof though.
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Very nice pieces, and quite hard to find.
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Thanks 'wcg'. These are quite rare. I had to look long and hard to find both specimens. All I need is the 1 Ruble, and 3 Ruble (Type 1) to complete the set. The problem is there are many fakes of the 1 Ruble coin, and fakes of the 3 and 5 Ruble coins are starting to surface as well. I have to take care when chosing.

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I just learned some interesting information about the location of Armavir. There is actually two towns by this name. One in the Krasnodar district in Russia, and another in Armenia near the border with Turkey. The coins listed here were from Russia. Armavir, in Russia, was initially founded by Armenians in the 19th century and they named the city after Armavir in Armenia which was their ancient capital.

~Daniel
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