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Am I Wrong In Being Mad At This Dealer?

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 Posted 12/31/2009  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it is kinda rong to price something that is 7 dollars more than it is supposed to be but like everyony else saaid you should really give him another chance
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 Posted 12/31/2009  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gord to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, you guys are all softys !
Happy New Year !!1!
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 Posted 01/01/2010  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add curtis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
People have bad days - this person just might have just had a fight with the wife, missed out on buying a collection or found out he got stung on a coin he bought. Could even have been the upset stomach due to bad coffee. Seven dollars is nothing to gripe about. Yes its stupid on his part not to revise his price especially with the history you two share. Remember, this hobby of yours, is a business for some. Good for you not to buy it. Like all collections, you can't get everything you want all at one time. This hobby has taught me that its all about patience (which I have very little supply... but getting better... LOL... its a twelve step process you know...).
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 Posted 01/01/2010  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi guys.
Just got back from an over night New Years Eve celebrations in Niagara Falls. The wet snow and drizzle realy didnt put too much of a 'damper' on things. And re-living my youth by seeing a 2 hour outdoor concert by Styx, and Glass Tiger was priceless.
Ive read all the above posts and I'm starting to feel better over the whole episode. I guess what really hit me was the 1st time I ask him to give me a break, I basically got shot down.
As some of you mentioned, this incident really shouldn't taint and over shadow all the other positives I have reaped from this same dealer. Indeed I have always been happy with him in the past, not only with his price points, but I also have had those 'your total is 100 bucks so $90 is good' scenerios as well.
I will more than likely find that 1952'er at any other dealer, or on a 'buy it now option' on ebay for the 10 dollars. Who ever said here that he finds more flexibility in pricing at a coin show also really nailed it. And myself being in Toronto, give me access to not only Torex 4 times a year, but also coinarama in Oshawa and other small coin shows approx every other month in the surrounding area. As far as retail coin shops I probably only have approx 2 which I like, however do have approx 4-5 dealers that are set up @ weekend flea markets that I could utilize comfortably.
In closing, perhaps I need to remember to leave the personalities out of it, and branch out and utilize other options when thing don't immediatley go my way.It appears I have many more options on how to obtain that coin under my terms, than this dealer has in trying to unload it under his.
Thanks again.
Martin
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 Posted 01/01/2010  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're very mellow this morning...I wonder why...



Quote:
And re-living my youth by seeing a 2 hour outdoor concert by Styx, and Glass Tiger was priceless.



Now I get it.

"Don't breathe the haze, man, don't breathe the haze...!"
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 Posted 01/01/2010  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Figman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bad day - bad day - bad day?

That answer just goes to show you how people these day's will accept bad behavior and poor service with low price. Thirty or forty years ago that would of been the kiss of death for a business, now we have Costco and Home depot.


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 Posted 01/01/2010  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't breathe the haze man....LOL
Oh yea,based on the ongoing smell within the immediate area, the 'doobs' were being enjoyed by many.
I was really surprised considering the cops were everywhere...uniformed and plain clothesed, that people were plainly walking down the streets smoking them. I kind of felt sorry for the families there who had small kids around however. I personally didnt have an issue with it mind you.
Oh to be young again......
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01/01/2010 3:31 pm
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 Posted 01/01/2010  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If there were "no marks" as you say, chances are that it is better than a $10 MS-63 coin. Sometimes we can agree on price, sometimes we can't. I wouldn't sweat it. I always haggle, if the dealer moves I go for it, if he doesn't but it's still worth it, I'll go for it. If he won't move and I won't pay full price, I'll pass - no hard feelings on either side.
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 Posted 01/02/2010  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hippiebrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the coin, in your opinion, isn't worth 17 bucks, don't buy it. No big deal here, the man can charge whatever he likes in his own shop, and you have the right to buy or not...again, no big deal, just buy the coins you think are good deals for you.

I do have to question the double standard a lot of collectors have. If the coin was worth 17 bucks and he only listed 10 bucks, you'd buy it, not tell him, and brag about it later. Think about that before you get upset with the guy, and before you give up on what seems like an honest dealer.
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 Posted 01/02/2010  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a good point Hippie. When I find I got a better deal either through the sellers negligence or through any other means, your right...I will pass comment to whom-ever (except the seller) about the deal I got.
On another note, you can be damned sure the dealer is also passing the same type of comments to his counterparts about the deals he gets from unsuspecting sellers, when he recognizes a rare variety or coin that wasn't known to the seller. I'm sure this happens time and time again when Grandma is selling Grandpas entire collection as a lot after he died. If she doesn't know better shes screwed.
Its a 2 way street, and in the interest of proper business, its always the intent to get something cheaper than standard value regardless what side of the counter your on.
Regardless, I'm over it now, and have decided that I will grace this same dealer with my business, but with a different and more formal approach. If he isn't flexible,its the end of the conversation for me and I move on and let him struggle in trying to sell it for his concrete asking price.
I guess my thinking over the whole affair got contaminated based on the total amount of previous business I have done with this seller vs the discounts I feel I now deserve because of such,
Take care


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 Posted 01/02/2010  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I agree you should be upset at this dealer for nickel and diming you for a few bucks, pardon the pun. Nothing irrates me more than dealers that suck every last drop of blood out of you, especially when you are a proven valued customer.
I see some of 'em on E-bay. They sell a coin for $2,000.00 at full trends and they still want $9.99 for shipping/handling? I think at that price FREE shipping would be a treat for the buyer.

Glenn
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 Posted 01/04/2010  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrycopaul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sometimes knowingly overpaying a bit is worth the price of shopping in a brick and mortar coin shop. He does have to pay the bills, and if you average out the money he has saved you in the past by foregoing the sales tax you are probably still ahead of the game.
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01/04/2010 6:20 pm
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 Posted 01/04/2010  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add curtis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey figman - I'm not defending the sellers actions here, just offering another viewpoint. I'm glad that dollar1948 didn't buy the coin. Nothing worse than buying an item and then thinking negatively about the purchase afterwards. All people have their good days and bad and sometimes don't always act the way they should.

17 bucks... move on...
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 Posted 01/05/2010  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jello_g to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller is entitled to ask whatever he wants. Instead of getting all hot and upset, you could ask what his reasons are for such a price discrepancy vs. trends. Without asking, you'd never know.
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 Posted 01/05/2010  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lots of feedback on this one..interesting points of view.
All I know is, I'm no longer ticked, and I will remember that like with any retailer, I have the right to just walk away and explore other avenues. Plain and simple.
Thanks again
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