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I need a little help on this one. I know nothing of German coins. from what I've researched so far, this is the 25th silver wedding anniversary of ludwig and therese. is this a coin or a medal? what is its mintage? I know the golden wedding anniversary only has 130 pcs minted. I'm guessing this one has considerably more. thanks in advance   |
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It's not a Bavarian coin. By 1893, Bavaria had joined the German Empire, and all Imperial coins had the "common reverse" of the Imperial Eagle.
It's not an Austrian coin, either; Austria didn't tend to issue commemoratives for "minor" family members.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Germany
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The signature "A. BOERSCH" indicates that this medal was made in Bavaria. Several "Bavarian coins" (ie. silver/gold issues with the common eagle side) from those years were designed by Alois Börsch.
Christian
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New Member
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I see. I assumed it's classified as bavarian under the german states since Krause lists their golden wedding anniversary dated 1918 under Bavaria/German States. Ludwig III of Bavaria was born in Munich and married Maria Theresia, Archduchess of Austria-Este, on feb 20 1868. they had 13 children which explains the 13 names at the obverse. I managed to view a scanned version of Krause catalog of german coins 2nd edition 1998 online. but it has missing pages. on page 106 under bavaria/german states it had the golden wedding anniversary of ludwig III and therese dated 1918. at page 104 there are coins of maximilian II and ludwig II, no ludwig III. page 105 was missing so I'm assuming that info on the silver wedding anniversary of ludwig III dated 1893 would be found on page 105 which I dont have. I'm just speculating of course. I just need that page 105!  Edited by DIC
01/25/2010 06:52 am
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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Right, a Bavarian issue, and probably made at the Munich mint - but again, that is not a coin. So it is quite unlikely to be listed in a coin catalog. Your medal is in this price list for example (item #279 on page 12) http://www.tempelhofer-muenzenhaus....24s.1328.pdf But I do not have any of the medal catalogs listed there, so I don't know how many of these were made ... Christian |
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Philippines
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thanks Christian that clears up a lot of things. only the mintage # is missing.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I don't think the mintage would be too much different from
the golden wedding anniversary.
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New Member
Philippines
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im sure it's different. the golden wedding anniversary only had 130 pcs and krause lists at $15,000 for a VF piece. if the silver sells for $150 (at one site) then I'm sure it's more than just 130 pcs. however I know the golden wedding was a coin and not a medal since it had am imperial eagle at the reverse and a denomination of "drei mark"
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New Member
Philippines
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i saw this one from one site:
"1893, AR medal by A. Boersch for Prince Ludwig (future Ludwig III) 25th Wedding Anniversary, Witt 2940, Hauser 137, Ĝ41mm, Wght: 34.2g, lettered edge, AU
[picture] buy it
$150.00"
What does it mean "lettered edge"? does it mean that the rim has letters just like pillar coins have laurel leaf edges? because the coin I have isn't lettered at that area.
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Valued Member
Australia
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Ja, edge lettering / edge arabesque usually means there is some manner of Edge Inscription (such as 'GOTT MIT UNS', other words or designs) present on the coin. Its something MANY German coins use as one of the anti-counterfeiting means...
How does your coin look in all other respects? ie, weight, diameter, etc?
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New Member
Philippines
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It's about 41mm in diameter and 3mm thick. it's weight is about 33.6 grams. it seems about right if it's silver.
The seller told me that she know of three types, copper-nickel, pewter and silver. pewter is 25% lighter than silver. so it seems that 33.6 is just about right for the size of the medal if it were silver. I'm sure it's genuine. it's a beautiful medal nicely toned. I just had some doubts as to its composition.
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