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malissadawn Pillar of the Community Canada 1931 Posts	Posted 02/02/2010 7:47 pm I have posted this coin before but I dont remember seeing these details on it. I can't tell if it was overstruck or not. Were coins from this area and date commonly reused when needed? thanks for opinions malissa Report this Post to the Staff

DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 02/03/2010 5:02 pm I see what you mean--traces of letters around the legends. Lacking specific knowledge of these coins, how might we tell between a retooled die and an overstruck coin? Report this Post to the Staff
malissadawn Pillar of the Community Canada 1931 Posts	Posted 02/03/2010 6:36 pm I wish I knew! If only I could get all the crap off it too but I dont want to attempt it and damage the coin. Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 02/03/2010 8:05 pm I'm not sure either, since I don't have any overstrike coins myself However, I've seen a couple here on CCF and one thing I've noticed.... When a coin is restruck, and the old design (relief) overlaps a design on the die (which is recessed), usually part of the old design is preserved. So, if your coin was a restrike, we might see part of the old design in the legends and coat of arms where those details didn't get mashed down by the new die, right? Since I only see traces of the old design in the fields around the legend, I'm thinking this is either a reworked die or a die clash. Just guesses here--I'd have to do an overlay to be more sure. Look at the bases of the letters in PORTUGAL--I see signs of repunching there. --just my thoughts... Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 02/04/2010 12:38 pm Pertaining to double-struck (or overstrikes), here's a good example of the effect described above. This Sweden 1805 1/4 Skilling was struck once, the rotated slightly for a second strike. You can see how the 1 digit on the die struck the 8 in 1805, preserving details of the first strike in the 1 (arrow). Btw--nice pics of your coin! Edited by DVCollector 02/04/2010 12:49 pm Report this Post to the Staff
malissadawn Pillar of the Community Canada 1931 Posts	Posted 02/04/2010 2:37 pm ooooh Thats a really neat one DV. Is that in your collection? On another note, I found a coin here in an envelope with your name on it so I think maybe I was supposed to send it to you before my trip? Maybe email me your address again and I will get it on its way. :) Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16868 Posts	Posted 02/04/2010 5:00 pm I'd vote for die clash. The letters are backwards - especially the "R" from "regina" underneath the first A of MARIA, and the BIO from "algarbiorum" between MARIA and I. The stuff under the top of the reverse is the clashed crown from the obverse. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
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