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1934j - 1 Reichsmark - Enquiry

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I purchased this coin at a local coin shop for $5.00.

Weight is 4.76 grams. It is my understanding that 1933-39 nickel Reichsmarks weigh ~4.8 grams...

For members who have a working knowledge about German coinage, I would be most appreciative for advisement as to thoughts, input... and (if sensically pertinent) grade...?...

Thanks.



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 Posted 02/16/2010  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent details on this coin especially the oak leaves, I do see what looks like some hairlines over the date and between the eagles legs and tail. Might have been cleaned at some point. I would grade this coin at MS-64. Very nice.
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Hi Echizento -

Thanks for the input.

Any thoughts about the variance between what this nickel coin weighs (4.76grams) and what research says it should weigh (4.8grams)?

Thanks.
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Scale could be off a bit, IMO not enought difference to raise any red flags.
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Attached please find a link to an article that discusses counterfeit Morgans... http://www.ehow.com/how_4821306_spo...dollars.html

Per the article, it states "Circulated and worn-out coins may be a tiny bit lighter, but if you encounter an offer of a "mint quality" coins which weight is not within one 100th of a gram from the design weight... then it is a fake."

Though the article pertains to silver Morgans, which are made of silver, would this also apply to nickel coins, especially since this coin appears to be in such good shape? Or are mint tolerances less stringent given that the metal involved is nickel rather than silver?
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echizento -

I thought that too. However, I test the scale periodically using several different coins. They all each weigh in exactly per spec. Thus I'm rather positive it wouldn't be the scale...
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"zaggy" is the guy we need here!

All I can say is From what I have seen on prices, I think you got a good deal. (Assuming it isn't fake, but I wouldn't think these would be faked?)
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That's sorta what I'm thinking Schmidty... why fake a nickel coin? But that being said, it unnerves me a bit with the variance in weight.

I take it that Zaggy would be highly knowledgeable about this enquiry?

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I see no indications that this coin is a fake, it is struck and not cast and the details are share not what you would expect to find in a copy.
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Thanks Echizento. I appreciate all of your input.

Would you care to venture to a guess in terms of value for this specimen?
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Book value for BU is $20, I'd say $30 maybe a little more.
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Thanks again Echizento! Curious, which book did you consult?
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Quote:
I take it that Zaggy would be highly knowledgeable about this enquiry?
Yep. He is conducting a research project on coins of the Third Reich.
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Krause, Standard Catalog of World Coins.
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Thanks Echizento.
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