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 Posted 06/15/2006  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Buffaloboy5

But they stole most of my mom's jewelry and sister's. They also stole my dads whatch collection. But they stole 100.00 dollars of my coins!


Sorry to hear of your financial loss Bboy. Have the police found your sisters yet? I'll bet your parents feel this loss a lot more than you do your coins.



Sorry about the loss. This is by no means a laughing matter but I couldn't help myself with Old Dan's response. I was kinda suprised no one else mentioned that. I laughed for quite abit over that one. You know.... it sounds like your sisters were stolen

Maybe its a good thing I didnt ship that other coin out yet... been very busy. I plan to tomorrow so maybe that'll help get your collection back.

Jordan
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 Posted 06/15/2006  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was going to say something but out of respect I decided not to do so and I think that is probably the reason it wasnt called upon, we were all just waiting to see who would pull the trigger first
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 Posted 06/15/2006  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I finally re-read your post and OldDan's too. I'm with jdheyne. I'm sorry buffaloboy but, OldDan's humor is wonderful and sometimes you just have to laugh to get through things. Your privacy has been violated and unfortunately I know how that feels.

TLS5933 sounds like the voice of experience. I agree with everything said. I would add one thing...always be aware of your surroundings when discussing your collection with anyone outside of your household. You never know who might be listening.
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 Posted 06/15/2006  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would be a prime target. I tell quite a few people about how much I am into coins... probably not wise.

Tonight at our coin club meeting, Leon Hendrickson of Silvertowne was there as our guest speaker. One member of our Coin Club said he is one of the very few remaining "Great" Numismatist. He said he would argue the point that there is no one better than Leon. He said although there have been better one in the past (Breen amoung some others), he knows no one currently better than Leon. Leon was part of the dispursing of the Redfield hoard: http://lynncoins.com/redfield.htm
He did not go into details. He got... well he didn't say what he wanted to, but it wasn't good. He said he shelled out millions and got one bag of dollars. He also was talking about he would take $10,000,000 loans because the bank wouldn't give him anymore at one time, sell off the stuff, and do it again. Listening to this man speak was very well worth my while.

Unless I misunderstood (and I didn't want to ask to elaborate on the topic), his wife killed someone who was trying to rob them, and they captured the other guy. From my understanding, it was a while ago when he was not nearly as big as he is now, but one night they had a couple intruders (probably armed). And well... yeah. She got him.
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 Posted 06/16/2006  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coolg35748 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A safe is a good investment. Once I get a larger collection I am definatly getting a safe.
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 Posted 06/16/2006  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buffaloboy5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well since I'm going to work this summer as a dog sitter I might aswell svae the money for a safe
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 Posted 06/16/2006  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fengk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that there is something in the lining of the interior of the more expensive safes that could potentially be damaging for coins. You might want to double check this, since this is just a vague recollation.
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 Posted 06/16/2006  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buffaloboy5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok fengk i'll check on that
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 Posted 06/17/2006  01:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add djluster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
remeber in the mean time before you get a safe put your coin in diffent areas in your room. Closets,dressers, underbed, desk, just find diffent places to put them and if you can try to descise them.
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 Posted 06/17/2006  03:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greekandromancoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is very sad news indeed and I hope the police tracks them down. One tip I can think of is to split up your collection and keep them in different locatins (i.e. not all eggs in the one basket) and to put a few decoy pieces out in the open for thieves.

Regards,

Peter A. Piliouras
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 Posted 06/17/2006  05:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, Old Dan's humor is very good, if your able to have a laugh.

Here are a few suggestions I hope will help you and your family Buffaloboy5.

A good Safe can be expensive. Depending on the construction of your home, a cheaper alternative is to get a strong metal toolbox that you can use a padlock to lock closed. Find a closet in your house that you can use. Open the toolbox and drill/screw the box to the floor from the inside of the box. Once closed, the box is then secured to the floor. Use plenty of good screws and washers to prevent the heads of the screws from ripping thru the bottom of the box if attacked. I have a fire safe that is dyna bolted into a concrete floor. Now a thief can bring along bolt cutters and a very large crow bar and attack your safe, but without those tools with him, you have made his job very hard and made a big improvement in the security of your collection.

Now try and disguise the toolbox. You can get a cardboard box and slide it over the toolbox, so it just looks like the cardboard box is there. If this is inside a closet you can place some old clothes and shoes on top, to make it look unappealing. Old toys are a good way to make the cardboard box look like a cheap toy box. If they open the closet, they only see a pile of old clothes, if they dig through that they find a cardboard toy box. Time is against the thief, he wants to get in and out quickly. The disguise must be saying," Nothing of value here." to be effective. But if he does discover the toolbox, he'll need to go get some tools to get it off the floor or try and open it. Be sure any tools inside your home are secured away also or hard to find.

Use a good size padlock. It will come with two keys. You can carry one with you with your house keys. The other one you should also hide, in a different room of the house. A good place is inside an envelope that is inside the pages of a book. Thieves are never interested in books. (I wonder why?). Anyway, if the key does get discovered they will still have no idea what it's for if its location is not near the closet.

A suggestion for your Mom and sister with their jewellery is to get an old worn out teddy bear, cut out the bottom and remove most of the stuffing. Put their jewellery in the old stuffed toy and throw it in the bottom of their closet. Old Stuff toys never get stolen because they are worthless to the thief.

From there your parents could go ahead with an Alarm system, putting a deadlock on the closet door, improving the toolbox to a fireproof safe (safe for a few hours of fire, which is good for important papers, passports etc), getting a big dog, etc, etc. Only your parents will know how much additional security they will need to protect the valuables and feel safe again.

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 Posted 06/17/2006  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coolg35748 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Toast those are some VERY helpful tips. I may use a few of them.
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 Posted 06/17/2006  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grovey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
INSTEAD OF buying a safe and a lock and all that. Just go to your bank and get a sawe deposit box. Mine is $65.00 per yr. It's safe its climate controlled (a/c). I image my coins and store them on my hard drive in case anyone wants to see them. It just works well. I too was robbed of my collection many years ago, It sucks ! you feel violated, The note is from someone that was familiar with you and your hobby. The same happened to me.
Maybe once a month I stop by the bank just to make sure all is fine.

Heres an example : a friend of mine wanted to see the $2.50 indian gold piece I bought last year I said ok here you go pcgs AU58

Almost-Lost-Entire-Collection!

Almost-Lost-Entire-Collection!

SO MUCH SAFER .....SO LESS EXPENSIVE...THINK ABOUT IT!
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06/17/2006 8:37 pm
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 Posted 06/17/2006  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lim118 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Toast has made a few excellent suggestions. For me, I used to insure my collection and also keep some of the more expensive ones in a safe deposit box, however, the combined costs of insurance and bank charges have proved to be quite prohibitive and I have gone ahead and bought a couple fairly reliable Chubb safes....installing them nearly gave the 6 of us a hernia...LOL.

I also do not give out my physical address by using a Post Office box.

Rest in Peace
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 Posted 06/18/2006  01:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess I'm lucky that the coins I keep at home wouldn't be worth the risk of breaking in to get.

The few I have which are worth anything are kept in a bank safety deposit box.
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