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Cleaning With Ammonia

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 Posted 03/11/2010  06:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add razorear to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I havn't tried olive oil, but as of April 14th it will be a year that some dirty wheat cents have been soaking in mineral oil. So far only the cents with the heaviest build up of dirt has kind of like a haze or fog around them. The dirt is trying to loosen up, but its a long process thats why I'm looking for a quicker solution.
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 Posted 03/11/2010  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I havn't tried olive oil, but as of April 14th it will be a year that some dirty wheat cents have been soaking in mineral oil. So far only the cents with the heaviest build up of dirt has kind of like a haze or fog around them. The dirt is trying to loosen up, but its a long process thats why I'm looking for a quicker solution.


Yes there have been posts about the usage of Olive Oil on coins. Usually they state to leave the coins in the Olive Oil for a long period of time. You could try it but I suggest if you do, allow the coins to soak for a minimum of 100 years. 80 to 90 years may work, but why take chances.
If you look into this subject further you would also hear about that greatest of all, Lighter fluid, Lemon Juice, Vinegar, Molases, spit, battery acid, Tomato paste and many, many others. Many of which if they don't work on coins could be used to make a salad or sandwich so not all is lost. Whereas with Ammonia, all you can do is clean your floors if it doesn't work
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 Posted 03/11/2010  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
he may be "aged Rock"... but he probably has more $$$$ than all of us together.....
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 Posted 04/03/2010  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sokol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ammonia is ok for silver.
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 Posted 04/03/2010  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can speed up the effect olive oil will have on copper coins by heating it. I've found that holding olive oil at about 214F or slightly higher than the boiling point of water(101 centigrade) for an hour or so and then letting it cool normally will cause the coin to expand and contract within it's crud envelope at a different rate than the crud itself. Result? Crud often falls off with no further intervention.

As a variation on this for more stubborn coins, I put copper and silver coins in a standard freezer for a few hours and then put them immediately into hot olive oil at around 250 F and simply watched attached crud fall off them.


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I am getting ready to sell some 1923 Morgans just for the silver price. These coins were so bad the dealer wanted to take off some ounces for dirt. Took them home and asked my wife if she could clean them. Gave them back to me after her ammonia bath that she uses all over the bathroom fixtures and these coins looked like they were just minted. There are no scratches or marks from the cleaning in the ammonia (half strength). WE have done this with other silver and over a year later there are no orange spots or any other spots on them. One trick is to make sure its no longer than 10 minutes in the soak. And yes there are some things it will not clean but for regular dirt and grime on silver coins I highly recommend ammonia. Notice I said silver not copper or bronze or another alloy.

Thanks

Tom R/edgman
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 Posted 04/03/2010  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am pretty well "sitting on the fence", when it comes to clw=eaning crud off the coins. I would like to be able to see the details, which make up the variety, like in hte IHC, the RPD's. Some of the coins I have seen posted, or published have crud in place, and yet the details are visible,. in orh=thrt==er cases, one can't see the details to verify that what is clainedm is actually true. I like the coin in a natural state, and color. it won't always be the same color, because there is not a constant mix of everything I the air, everywhere youu go, so there will be differences.
I have not used, oe even tried ammonia, or many other substances, for obvious reasons. I don't want to mess up my coins. I do use hot soapy water, ( the pure soap, not the fancy ,dressed up kind. One never knows what kind of "additives" were put in "for effect".
Most of the crud has been removed by soaking on mineral oil for a while, and then using a thorn from one of the many roses, or lime, od any naturally thorny plants. The only thing I have found, is that they are not sharp enough to get in really close. A toothpick, looks like the end of a telephone pole, under glass, and is useless.
I guess it boils down to the case that if you don't want a coin that has some sort of crap on it from having been in everyones hand for many years, that it just won't look clean, no matter what, then one must have a deep pocket, and buy the coins as they are minted. Vitgin, without a story to tell about where they have been, much less with whom.....
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