Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. 300,000 items to help build your collection! Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Specializing in Modern Numismatics Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsCoin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Chinese/Taiwanese/Japanese/Korean Coin? | Good Luck Charm

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 6 / Views: 9,374Next Topic  
Valued Member
Ngdawa's Avatar
Sweden
347 Posts
 Posted 03/11/2010  8:24 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ngdawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey all!
I've got a coin from my grandma and I'm wondering if this is a real coin or a fake/token/medal?
It looks like this:

Chinese/Taiwanese/Japanese/Korean-Coin?-|-Good-Luck-Charm

The text on the coin is: 五身出子 (wu3 shen1 chu1 zi3) and ?"ッ"N百 (unknow, tong2 nian2 bai3). Note that the characters might be in a different order. I would also like to get the unidentified character identified.
Thank you!
//Ngdawa

Moved to Exonuma forum - Sap
Moderator
Learn More...
Sap's Avatar
Australia
16830 Posts
 Posted 03/11/2010  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, but it's not a real coin. It's a Chinese "good luck charm", very broadly modelled on a "cash" coin. This voided charm has a similar layout, with the bees at top and bottom and spiders to left and right.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
Moderator
Learn More...
echizento's Avatar
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 03/11/2010  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
, to the community.

I agree with Sap a Chinese fanasty/good luck piece.
Valued Member
Uhhhh's Avatar
United States
117 Posts
 Posted 03/11/2010  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Uhhhh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It sure is pretty though. :)

Valued Member
Ngdawa's Avatar
Sweden
347 Posts
 Posted 03/12/2010  05:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ngdawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, my first "none coin" in my collection, hehe!

But can someone help me with the last character? The one in the left picture, top left? And how about the year, is it possible to say at all?

Well, I thank you all for your help and welcoming!
Moderator
Learn More...
Sap's Avatar
Australia
16830 Posts
 Posted 03/13/2010  08:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Old Chinese cash coins can be read multiple ways, but one traditional way is clockwise. The bees are likely to be at the top and bottom, but since there's otherwise no real "top" or "bottom" to it, it can probably be read "properly" no matter which way you hold it. I can't read Chinese and I'm relying on translation websites like this one. So let's have a go at translating it on that basis:

Left side: wu zi chu shen, literally "5 son happenings life". Chushen together means "life experience", and wu (the number five) often seems to mean "multiple" when used in a poetic sense; thus I would read it as "may your life be filled with many sons".

Right side: your mystery character is ambiguous to me, too; my best guess is ji, "festival". It certainly seems to be something with the "shi" radical at the bottom, which usually denotes some kind of ritual or omen. In any event, reading it as ji would give us ji bai nian tong, literally "festival 100 year together" - which in the context of the reading on the other side I would translate as "may you have a long and happy marriage".

Running my phrases back through Google Translate gives "Five sons born / Festival with a hundred years", so I'm probably not too far off in my translations.

As for the date: yours doesn't "look old"; it was probably cast sometime in the last 30 years or so. The one in the Zeno link I posted above looks older, but now that I look more closely at it I can see the characters appear to be the same, so the design has probably been around for a while. And given the wishes expressed upon it, it probably doesn't come from mainland China itself, where the one-child-policy is in effect. The Zeno one is labelled as "Korean", and I've heard of many kinds of modern copies of old charms like this coming out of Vietnam, so I would suspect either of those places as the origin for this piece.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
Valued Member
Ngdawa's Avatar
Sweden
347 Posts
 Posted 03/13/2010  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ngdawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, thanks alot!

Yeah, I guess your translation seems correct. I know a little Chinese, and I can follow your way of thinking considering of the meaning of the characters.

The origin is interesting. I'm not sure when the one-child-policy appeared in China, but my grandfather where stationed in Korea by the UN in -'57, I think, so It might be from Korea. He also where in Japan for a "vacation", but according to your line of reasoning Korea sounds more likely.

Thanks for your help Sap!
  Previous TopicReplies: 6 / Views: 9,374Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.29 seconds to rattle this change. Forums