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Unknown Coin Found Yesterday (Id: Likely Ayyubid Dynasty Fals)

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 Posted 03/22/2010  5:49 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Mike3Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this coin in a field in Hampshire UK yesterday and it certainly doesn't look British! It's about the same size as a 10 pence piece - ~23mm diameter it is hammered rather than milled, though is rather thick for a hammered coin.

I've adjusted the photos to make it easier to see the text. It is in reality the colour is red of copper I oxide - sort of Iron oxide colour, but is non-ferrous.

I have no idea as to it's origin and would welcome any help. Thanks in advance!

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There is so little detail on the coin its tough to get a distinguished marking from the picture
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This coin has been buried in a field for what I suspect is hundreds of years before I picked it up, so I think it has some excuse for not looking too good. I'd look a lot worse!

This is why I enhanced the photos before posting. I was hoping someone would recognise the script and possibly translate it for me!
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The script appears to be Arabic; to me it looks most like a Crusader-period Islamic coin, something along the lines of this coin on Zeno, from the Ayyubid dynasty - the descendants of Saladin, circa 1200-1250 AD. A small copper Islamic coin is usually called a "fals" or "falus".
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Thanks for that. I had looked at the examples here:
http://users.rcn.com/j-roberts/ayy.htm
but had decided the writing on mine was too big.

I had suspected the crusader period due to finding it in Britain

Updated:

I think I've found a better match

http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=82251

Now how on Earth did that end up in a field in Hampshire UK
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Now how on Earth did that end up in a field in Hampshire UK

It certainly is unusual, and from the crustiness it's fair to assume that it's not a recently lost coin from somebody's collection. There are some Ottoman and Indian States coins listed on the UKDFD website, but no older Islamic coins, and very few Crusader coins. It was presumably a souvenir from a pilgrim or crusader who picked it up in change while over there and then returned from the Holy Land with it.
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Try rubbing it... Place a sheet of paper over the coin and lightly rub the paper with a wax crayon or soft pencil. It should transfer any of the remaining coin detail to the paper and make it easier to identify.
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It might be Egyptian because of it's faint pictures.
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