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I'm at the point in my collect where I need to know about counterfeits. I'm having a hard time finding information and was wondering if there is any recommendations for books or websites that deal with Great Britain / English counterfeits?

I'm mainly interested in the George I to George III reigns.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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I found this website and thought I'd post the link for future searchers.

I'm still interested in more sources.

Counterfeit British Coppers
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G'day, there's plenty of KG3 counterfeits. I've acquired a few. When I show them to non-collectors, I remind them that possession of a counterfeit carried the death penalty. I wait until until they have the article "in hand" before sharing that fact.

Upto about 1800, the penalty for women was to be burned at the stake; for men a beheading.
Hanging was later introduced as the gender-neutral penalty.

By 1820, the bigger problem was forged paper banknotes.

What I have noticed is:
silver coins made of brass. Closer inspection often reveals silverish residue around the legend: I suspect that this is mercury, which formerly covered the whole "coin".

Sixpences were sometimes gilded to look like half-sovs; and earlier, shillings gilded to pass as a guineau.

It's a great area, and interesting pieces are usually inexpensive.

Peter in Oz
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 Posted 04/03/2010  06:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add freewheel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have started a collection of fakes and some of them are very good, however, a general rule of thumb is that if the coin doesn't feel right then something's wrong. Fakes do feel different and rarely are they the correct weight and have a completely different sound when dropped. Often the seller lets a fake go as if it were a really good deal..........buyer beware of too good a deal!
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I came across this when researching a coin in my collection, http://www.thecoppercorner.com/hist...ns_hist.html which were late 18th century copper forgeries.
A list of the various words ad phrases used can be found on this site http://www.irish-tokens.co.uk/html%.../vol-16r.htm

You've got me wanting to research my forgeries more now, got what I think is a george III counterfeit soverign and what looks like a brass counterfeit crown of George III too.
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 Posted 04/05/2010  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uouo77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the information, you can never have to much. I'm sure it will be a great help.
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