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A Question About A Roman Coin

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 Posted 04/15/2010  11:33 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add hidden to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have three question about the following coin.

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1) What is it?
On the face I see "IMPPROBVSPFAVC" and on the back "TEMPORFELICI".
2) Is it real or is it a fake?
I ask this because the edge is quite odd looking.
3) How, if anything, is it worth?

Thanks for the answers in advance.

P.S.
I am not familiar with coin collecting so I apologize if some questions seem silly.
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 Posted 04/15/2010  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Americanamafia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if you could get some better pictures that would help.

Aside from that how was it cleaned (ex oil water, electrolosis?)

Statistically I would say it is a late roman bronze, value between 1-5$ depending on how it was cleaned.

Someone on here might know more.
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I have no idea how it was clean. I got it in this condition.
What is the difference with those cleaning methods?
Is it possible determine what method was used?
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Yeah we gotta have bigger and better pics for that one. I enlarged it which made it a little blurry but the details, especially the lettering, look off to me. I am also concerned about that edge myself. It appears to be cast.
I lived in Italy for three years and cast copies were very common. It is not, or at least was not illegal to make copies of ancients without marking them so in Italy at the time. That was 12 years ago.

I can tell you this much, "IMPPROBVS" "IMP=emperor, "PROBVS"= Probus which is the shortened name of the emperor on the coin. Probus's full name was Marcus Aurelius Probus. I am still searching through my books to translate the rest. I'll edit this post when I get that done.

Edit:I am sorry but I cannot seem to be able to translate the ret of the obverse, but the reverse translates to Tempor Felix meaning "the happy times". But to me the person pictured on your coin looks like Tetricus II who's name was Caius Pius Esuvius Tetricus who would have been emperor 272-276AD. If it is Marcus then he was in power from 276-282AD
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This is a very nice Roman coin of the Emperor Probus 276-282 AD. IMP PROBVS PF AVG. Condition looks to be VF, value is not very high but this is a nice coin to start collecting ancients with.
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Obv:- IMP C PROBVS P F AVG, Radiate, cuirassed bust right
Rev:- TEMPOR FELICI, Felicitas standing right, holding caduceus and cornucopiae
Mint - Lugdunum (I in exe) Emission 6 Officina 1. A.D.278 to A.D. 279
Reference:- Cohen 713. Bastien 269. RIC 104 Bust type F

Similar to mine below:-

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Thank you all for the answers!
I shall try to upload better pictures tomorrow. Those where taken from a mobile phone.
It appears to be exactly like the one maridvnvm has. I am only not sure if it is a fake or not. The edge lead me to suspect that it might be a cast like Tim Stroud said. I hope better picture will resolve this.
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 Posted 04/15/2010  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These coins were hand struck so you will see imperfections, nothing indicates to me that this is a cast copy.
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nothing indicates to me that this is a cast copy


My area of concern was around the area of the B and V in "Probvs". When I enlarged it, it did not look right to me. But like I said it was blurry and my old eyes don't have the sharpness they once had.
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My camera is not working. I shall try to post better pictures tomorrow.
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 Posted 04/17/2010  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hidden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the better picture. Hopefully this will be good enough to conclude is it a fake or not.


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 Posted 04/17/2010  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Americanamafia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not an expert on these things but from those pictures it does not appear to be cast. I feel some of the detail on the obverse would of been lost in casting, particullary by the legs
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 Posted 04/17/2010  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin looks fine and is not a cast copy.
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Thank you. Now I am sure it's ok.
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