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Hello To My Brothers And Sisters Up North (Waaay North)...

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 Posted 04/22/2010  01:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I live in Tampa, FL. Born and raised, in fact my family goes back 4 generations!

I have only been collecting coins for about 8 months or so and I do a lot of roll searching through cents. During this time, I have collected a little stash of Canadian cents. I don't have many, I assume because I'm so far south. I think most collectors down here that roll search probably "release them back into the wild" when they exchange for more rolls. But, I have kept them.

I actually think your cents are quite beautiful, and I would like to expand my horizons beyond U.S. coinage. I was roll searching tonight and stumbled on to this coin which prompted the thread:

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What intrigued me about this coin first is that it is the first anniversary coin I had seen. Next, was how the rim is raised so high. I have a few others where the rim is slightly higher than the rest, but not quite like this one. Is this normal for Canadian coinage?

It's not in very great shape obviously, but it got me to thinking. I mainly search cents for errors and varieties, so what would I look for on that occasional Canadian cent that I come across?

I mean, I know the obvious, doubled dies, die cracks (I think I'm a crack addict, I love die cracks!), off-centers, blah blah blah. But, are there certain years that I should really keep an eye out for? The oldest I have is a 1961. I think I remember reading something about a 1965 and the angle of the 5 or something? I have a few of those.

Anyway, to make a long story longer, along the lines of a pen pal, I think it would be cool to have a "coin pal". Since I can't find many Canadian coins down here, maybe once a month or so, if someone would just take 1 roll of unsearched coins and drop in the mail to me, I would do the same for someone interested in an occasional unsearched roll of American cents.

We could trade pics through e-mail if there were any questions and then decide whether to use "photobucket" type space to cross-post in the other's forum for the others to see.

Hope I didn't bore you.

Rooby Roo!



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 Posted 04/22/2010  02:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gebs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome,

I'm not a friend far north but far east, from the Netherlands. I also have a hard time getting the latest releases from the mint. So if anyone can help my out.

Does the metal of the one cent look like copper or like nickel?

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 Posted 04/22/2010  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gebs, "latest from the mint" from where? U.S. or Canada?
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 Posted 04/22/2010  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello,
to each its own.
but did you ever consider , besides the enjoyment of course, that most mint issues are a loosing investment? Oh yes, they look great and the mint does make sure that "errors" happen to keep the interest up... it is their mandate and business to sell coins for profit.. at any high price.
the real Canadian coins, 1967 and older are mostly bypassed. However, that is where you find the most beautiful Canadian coin issues, right back to 1858.
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 Posted 04/22/2010  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thehammer77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I live in Canada. The 1965 has a blunt 5 and pointed 5 also large beads and small beads. I suggest you got to your bookstore or order online from a Canadian coin store and get a Charton book of Canadian Coins, I am doing the same and ordering a US RedBook from someone on here because I know some but not enough on US Errors and Varieties. I am selling some extra olympic quarters on ebay, they have to be shipped as parcel after a certain thickness (this is insanely expensive like $10/roll). I will check if it's the same case with the pennies. Never paid attention to the rims on Canadian pennies so can't help you there.
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 Posted 04/22/2010  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good point on the mint rolls hhbkiddo.

I didn't think about the postage hammer. That could make it not worth it. I guess I'll just keep finding the one's I get down here!

Which of the 1965's is more desirable?
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the large beads pointed 5 is the rarer and most desirable 1965. You can also post a scan of it in the Canadian errors and variety section if you are not sure.
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Scooby Due: Hats off to you for starting an out-of-country set from your local bank rolls. I'm the reverse of you -- love finding wheats or checking for LMC varieties here in Canada.

To help answer your question, I posted a long list (quite a way down page 1) of this topic:

https://goccf.com/t/61618

It has a fairly complete list of Canadian cent varieties. Years with more than one major variety are listed. (Citation: much of this list came from members here, and the `Coins and Canada' site.)

On the error side, I know virtually nothing. I don't think there are any prominent rotated dies on modern cents. I've seen the odd clip, but only very minor ones. I suppose if you want to call the 2006 no MM, magnetic, an "error" (I don't) then that's a big one too.

The coin pal idea is a good one. I wish there were some way to overcome the postage. I even thought it over once to set up a virtual "coin search cam" for American collectors of Canadian cents. That's probably getting a little silly, though!
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04/22/2010 12:07 pm
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 Posted 04/22/2010  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gebs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I mean the latest from the mint of Canada.
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 Posted 04/22/2010  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
bibd, that's a great list. Would you mind sending me a copy of the spreadsheet? I am an Excel master (well, almost). I have automated a lot of my spreadsheets through programming with VBA.

Although I will probably never be able to complete a set way down here roll searching, maybe just trading single coin shipments may be cheaper in the postage department. My company is contracted to the post office down here, when the postal clerks show up today I will talk to them about options.

hammer, the beads on my '65's look just like all other coins I have, so I'll assume I have the regular one.

Can anyone give me a little info on the anniversary coin I posted? What is it the 50th anniversary of?
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 Posted 04/22/2010  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jg86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is QEII's golden jubilee, she became queen in 1952, after the death of king george vi
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Thanks jg!
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Scooby , tell me what you got so far and I will send you a load of them going back to 1920 and as far back as 1859... The small cent started in 1920 and the large cents in 1858 to 1920.........

The small cents I have from 1920 to date so date so I can help you out quite a bit... I dont collect US but not to worry,
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As suggested, a Canadian coin book is a really good idea. However, since the 1965's are one of my favorite variety years, I have a bunch of scans that can show you in detail the four types. When you have a pointed 5 you will know right away, it is quite pointed. It's easy if you're not familiar with the 5's though to mistake a blunt for a pointed as even the blunt has a bit of a point to it. Pictured below are the pointed 5, small beads, and large beads.

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artidio, that's a generous offer. That would be really cool, but I would have to give you something! At least pitch in on postage! As far as what I have so far, not much. Like I said, I've only been collecting about 8 months and I only find a Canadian cent about once every 40 - 50 rolls, I'm guessing. I have several from the 60's, a few from the 70's, a couple of nice '99's and the one I posted above. I figure if they're going to keep showing up in rolls, and they are an attractive coin, so I might as well know what it is I'm collecting!

I also found a 1998 dime! In a roll of cents! Go figure. (Uh, I'm assuming they're called dimes in Canada, doh!)

1cent, thanks for the pics. I thought I had a couple '65's, but I guess I only have one. The 5 doesn't look as sharply angled as yours, so I'm assuming I have the non-pointed version. Is there a difference in beads on the non-pointed variety?

bibd, got the spreadsheets! I'll look them over and see what we can do for some of the automation you mentioned. Great job on the cherrypicked 70-S small date! I might be able to help you out with some of your uprgades. Check your e-mail.
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"Is there a difference in beads on the non-pointed variety?"

Yes. Blunt 5 has SB and LB as well. There were two obverse types and two reverse types, and all possible pairings of the dies did happen.
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