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What Is The Purpose Of Denticles?

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 Posted 05/09/2010  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Denticles and other border decorations were in use to prevent shaving before the invention of reeded edges.After the advent of reeded edges denticles served to aid in stacking.
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 Posted 05/09/2010  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I just sent this question off to the Royal Canadian Mint with the hopes I get an answer.
If their response time for these types of inquiries is simular to their turn around times for shipping ordered coins,then we should have an answer by mid December.
I'll keep you posted.
Thanks for everyones opinion.
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 Posted 05/09/2010  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Further update...just sent an email to the Canadian Coin News..(I love this paper). to see if Brett can asnwer the question.
Not that I dont trust everyone..it may be a combination of everything people have suggested
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 Posted 05/09/2010  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the post Dollar, Very interesting. I'd go for the same, to add ridgidity against bending and as an added touch to "framing" the coin, looks better with the denticles than without.
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 Posted 05/10/2010  01:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realpenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are also used to trap grunge and hold it there so your coins are nice and dirty. =P

Let us know the RCM answer if they respond.
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 Posted 05/10/2010  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Not that I dont trust everyone..

I can't say I blame you because there is a smelting pot of answers here and all seem to make sense in one way or another
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 Posted 05/10/2010  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, got an answer back from Brett Evans from the Canadian Coin News.,,,as per below. He not only collaborates everything people here have suggested but also has put a 'tradition' spin as an answer as well.

The main reason is history, as far as I know. It was quite common to
> clip and shave silver coins, and denticles, beads, and reeding along
> the edge were all introduced to discourage this practice.
>
> Most of our coin designs date back to a time when circulating coins
> were made of silver, and although the practice wasn't that common,
> people are conservative and coin designers know that coins with a
> familiar look and feel stand a better chance of being accepted in
> circulation.
>
> The raised rim aids stacking.
Edited by Dollar1948
05/10/2010 5:02 pm
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Thanks for the update.
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 Posted 05/10/2010  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pandesalapi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All has been said with each ideas correctly...
Really a learning experience
Thanks
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 Posted 05/10/2010  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that I've got denticles on my mind, theres something I just noticed..

most silver (crown size) commemoratives today dont have any!

must be just a passing design fad.

Thanks for the info Dollar!
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 Posted 05/11/2010  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dollar, you beat me to it, but I was going to say if Brett can't tell you, John can. That is right down his alley.

although I collect the small cents, I hadn't given any thought to the edge of the coin to see if it has gone thru the "upsety mill", like the US coins do. Thea is one of the things that help in the stacking of US coins. most likely, the same applies to the Canadian coinage, as well The other thought, along that line, is the different sized denticles, or beads, as the case may be, doesn't look like, (to me), to be a stable base. IMHO.
In the case of the denticles, I use them for locating the diagnostic, to determine the variety. You will notice, too, that in this particular method, that there is two points, which are exactly opposite, so that if one is not clear enough to tell for sure, check the opposite. ie, last "a" in gratia points to thr denticle. If in doubt, check the other "A". it will be between. The same ,ethod applies for the "DEI, where the "I" may be flared, or not, and the diagnostic, will point it out. Hope thas helps.

Dick
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05/11/2010 3:57 pm
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 Posted 05/11/2010  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Indeed Dino, denticles do help determine varities as well..forgot that point.
And lets not forget about the large beads/small beads varieties. You can be sure those coins wont stack well if you mixing both of them within the same stack/
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 Posted 05/11/2010  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrCanada to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hey I this is good I never new , I thought they were cosmetic.
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 Posted 05/14/2010  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I got an offical response back from the RCM pertining to why we have these denticles....as per below.

May 14, 2010

Dear "Mr Dollar1948",

I acknowledge your email of May 9, 2010 inquiring about the denticles and beading often seen on Canadian
coins.

The purpose of having a bead or denticle design on a coin, token or medal is actually to discourage the
counterfeiting of coins. Poorly struck coins have beads that run together - that are indistinct from one another.
Well-struck coins will display each individual bead or denticle.


Thank you for your interest in the Royal Canadian Mint.


Sincerely,

Mariella Montreuil
Communications Representative

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 Posted 05/15/2010  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well we have an "official reason for the denticles.
I never had any problem with stacking coins. I have three alternatives: Let them fall, 'stack" them in square tubes[, (so they don't roll off the table, or ust round tubes, and build a fence around the table
Dick.
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