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Check this out.http://shop.ebay.com/erickrichardso...em3cad2c9c20
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 Posted 05/21/2010  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is what unusual, that one seller has four 1909-S VDB cents available? Maybe so on ebay, but it is not unheard of for a dealer. I have seen dealers at coin shows with multiples.
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 Posted 05/21/2010  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tumbleweedtrumpet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They all check out on pcgs website.
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 Posted 05/21/2010  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add big777bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In MS-64 or better? plus he has already sold at least one that I saw.
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 Posted 05/21/2010  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tumbleweedtrumpet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, in the conditions stated.
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 Posted 05/21/2010  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb1877 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see anything unusual.

Some people only collect high-end key dates.

Maybe he's a dealer trying to unload some inventory and free up some cash.

They are nice coins for sure...wouldn't mind having one!
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 Posted 05/21/2010  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whytlash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, unusual if you think Bonsai trees and rare coins are an unusual business! (I've seen the Bonsai Tree Guy's auctions before - can't forget him!) Look at his feedback, he's sold more than one, and one of those went for 11 large!

Dang, I gotta start selling Bonsai trees!

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 Posted 05/21/2010  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add big777bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess when you think about it maybe it isn't so strange. With so many Chinese counterfeits on the market it doesn't hurt to be skeptical. JMO. I wish I had one to sell!
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 Posted 05/21/2010  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The thing that surprises people is that the 1909-s vdb is not that rare of a coin, and is also quite common in higher grades(kinda like the 1931-s). There value lies in the demand, and the semi-artificial perception that the low mintage means that the coin is rare. It's probably the most popular coin in existance, and I love it for that reason as I own one, but I'd be lying to myself if I thought that I had a "rare coin"...lol.
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 Posted 05/22/2010  02:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bryan1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Me personally would never deal with any of these so called rare/high end coins for a few reasons

1. as stated above, when there money to be made it makes counterfeiting more common
2. The most I ever will spend on a coin is 100 but in the end its your decision
3 (my view point) As I mainly buy for the metal value ex silver, I always think about how much I can get instead of how rare something is. I sold a few of my high end stuff on ebay to make purchases for something I feel is better. At the end of the day, somewhere down the road it wont matter how rare something is.
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 Posted 05/22/2010  08:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is something unusual about the "LIBERTY" in the MS64RB coin. LIB are not aligned with ERTY.
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 Posted 05/22/2010  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Way over priced
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My local dealer has two on the shelf right now. He had them both graded by PCGS. Not so unusual.
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Not unusual, at all. There are literally dozens of S-VDB's available at any of the larger coin shows. I saw that one dealer at the FUN show had a few dozen, himself, mostly high grade, stacked in slabs. Not unlike most first year coins, the S-VDB's were saved in large numbers. I tend to see more for sale above FINE than below that grade. There are ever so many coins that are more difficult to locate than an UNC S-VDB. I suspect at present that key date coins, gold and silver all look like good alternatives to those who are invested in the volatile stock market. Also, I see far more slabbed UNC S-VDB's than those simply graded GOOD.

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 Posted 05/22/2010  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add razorear to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A dealer that I buy from had 19 of them earlier this week. VF- MS-64red
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Checking this guy's Feedback, he's already sold a total of 29 1909S-VDB's, the worst of which was MS63RD and the best of which went for over $12,000. In addition, he's moved a bunch of high-grade St. Gaudens Double Eagles. I'd guess him to be a pretty high-end collector, indeed.

And no, S-VDB's are not nearly scarce enough to make quantities like this unusual. They're the moving target of numismatics - everybody's selling them. Heritage has moved over 2,000 examples alone, and there's over 200 on ebay right now.
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